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[VIDEO] - Inside China’s Mafia (Triad), Ghost Shadow Initiation, & Prison Machete Wars | Kenny Wong • 206

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6649 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 173 minutes

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(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Kenny Wong is a former Triad Gang Member & Ghost Shadows Gangster from NYC’s Chinatown. The Triad's were a Chinese transnational organized crime syndicate based in Greater China with outposts in various countries having significant overseas Chinese populations. The triads originated from secret societies formed in the 18th and 19th centuries with the intent of overthrowing the then-ruling Qing dynasty. The Ghost Shadows were a Chinese-American organized crime group active all around the country but centered in NY from the 1960s to the 1990s. - BUY Guest’s Books & Films IN MY AMAZON STORE: ⁠https://amzn.to/3RPu952⁠  EPISODE LINKS: - Julian Dorey PODCAST MERCH: ⁠https://juliandorey.myshopify.com/⁠  - Support our Show on PATREON: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey⁠  - Join our DISCORD: ⁠https://discord.gg/Ajqn5sN6⁠  JULIAN YT CHANNELS: - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips⁠  - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily⁠  - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP⁠  ***TIMESTAMPS*** 00:00 - Kenny background, China Town, Eddy Chang, Moving from Hong Kong 09:50 - Kenny’s Uncle Arrested, Ghost Shadow Gang, Father Murdered 20:07 - Post-Father Murder, Revenge, Singapore Lash, Joining Ghosy Shadow Gang 30:07 - Extortion, Kenny’s Mentality on China vs USA, Moving to Hong Kong 38:15 - How the Triad’s Work, Triad’s Escape to Hong Kong 44:55 - Triad’s Dark Initiation Process, Mindset w/ Crime   57:50 - Involvement in Organized Crime, Hatred For Anyone, China’s School Culture, Returning to NYC 01:07:52 - Joining NYC Ghost Shadow Gang, Drug Runs, Young Boss & Errand Boy  01:20:23 - Green Dragon Gang, Connection to Medellin Cartel, Kenny’s Anger Issues & Drug Usage 01:31:07 - Chinese Gang War, 1989 China Town Murders 01:37:25 - Armed Robbery Gone Bad, 18 Months in Prison 01:46:23 - Japanese vs Chinese Rivalry, Nanjing R@pe, WW2 ‘731’ Testing, Ghost Shadow Initiation  01:56:41 - Ghost Shadow Gang Slow Collapse, Informant & Kenny Accused 02:05:55 - Sister Ping, Someone Snitched, Kenny Stabbings in Prison 02:17:57 - Day Kenny Went Down, Going to Prison 7-8 Years, Lewisburg Prison, Lou Ferrante 02:29:23 - Out of Prison, Worst Day in NYC History, Ending of Ghost Shadows & Flying Dragons 02:38:58 - Leaving New York, Life After Gang Life 02:47:20 - Find Kenny, Book Coming Out CREDITS: - Hosted & Produced by Julian D. Dorey - Intro & Episode Edited by Alessi Allaman ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “JULIANDOREY”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey ~ Music via Artlist.io ~ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 206 - Kenny Wong Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The tribes effectively had, you know, young students in school who were already a member of their gang.

0:04.6

And so now you get into that, and now you're picking on other young students at their behest. Yes. They go by numbers. They need numbers because back there, they fight, they don't fight with guns. They don't have much guns. Gun trade is not a big thing in Hong Kong. The British have that been in control. If you go to England right now, even the cops don't carry a gun.

0:21.3

Right.

0:21.7

All right?

0:22.2

So guns are very limited in that part of the world. thing in Hong Kong. The British have been in control. If you go to England right now, even the cops don't carry a gun.

0:21.6

Right. Right.

0:22.6

So, guns are very limited in that part of the world. So is it knife? Oh, no, it's frickin' machetes. Oh, shit. We're talking about the Gurga's freaking machetes. That'll do it. Yeah, yeah. Cutting, freaking trees and chopping hands and heads. So you learn how to wheel a machete pretty good.

0:35.6

There's an incident that happened.

0:37.6

They were fighting over our territory.

0:39.6

I was called in to, because after that, I was going to be a full-blown initiated member. This isn't at school. No. Okay. It was making sure. But I was only 15 years old. Right. And he said, I want to see how the true colors. See how you react.

0:54.9

Are you braving them?

0:59.1

That was the honor for my one of the guys said, yo, go over there.

1:00.5

Knife.

1:03.2

That's not, I think it was a fucking shit.

1:04.4

I put it this way. What's up, guys? If you're on spotify right now please follow the shows so that you don't miss

1:17.3

any future episodes and leave a five-star review thank you you know back in the days it wasn't allowed

1:23.2

it wasn't what it wasn't allowed to take pictures it wasn't allowed to take your picture

1:27.0

yeah you snap a picture of us we're gonna freaking beat the shit out of you got Like on the street Yeah, grab your phone Grab your camera You know, rip that shit out What if I was in the FBI though What if I was in the FBI Then you got one picture of me They only got one picture of of you. One picture. The whole time. The whole time.

2:03.9

Yeah. Out in the street. We always keep a low profile. We try to hide our faces and everything. We're not. We weren't, how do you say, flashier and flamboyant like the mob was, you know, during that time. We try to keep everything quiet. And what year, like late 80s you're talking with this?

2:03.0

87, 80s you talking with this 87 88 yeah so you're yeah the the gaudy era they were allowed yeah they were

2:09.4

they were loud right and right um not that there was anything wrong but you know that's not our

2:14.9

style right 100% well kenny thanks so much for coming up here man if if we knew you were in New York the last two

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