Victory Day: Has Putin hijacked Russian remembrance?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
We’re just days away from Victory Day, when Moscow is due to hold a parade on 9 May to mark the victory of the Soviet Union and allies over Nazi Germany.
Victoria and Vitaly are joined by BBC Verify’s Olga Robinson and Alexander Zhuravlyov to discuss what the day means for Russians, and how its significance has changed since Vladimir Putin came to power.
Also, security correspondent Frank Gardner is in Kyiv and tells us whether Kyiv could try and disrupt the parade in Moscow, following several days of Ukrainian attacks on Russia.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Laurie Kalus, Yulia Kalantarova and Ben Carter. The technical producer was Ben Andrews. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The assistant editor is Max Deveson. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's 1,168 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.1 | Vitaly on Friday, it is Victory Day in Russia, a big day for many people there. |
| 0:14.3 | What is it? Why does it matter? |
| 0:16.1 | It is a huge deal. It's basically a key pillar on which state ideology rests and it celebrates |
| 0:26.7 | the Soviet victory in the Second World War, known as the Great Patriotic War in Russia. |
| 0:33.8 | In perfect order, the mass might of the Red Army passes in review through the historic square still marked by Nazi bombs. |
| 0:41.8 | And the Kremlin is exploiting it or has been exploiting it for years to justify its current policies. |
| 0:52.6 | And basically the message is, Russians, you've got to finish the job started by your heroic forefathers and smite our enemies once and for all, no matter the cost. |
| 1:07.2 | There is a picture of a newborn baby at a hospital in Russia wearing a hat. Is that relevant to the way Russian people celebrate? Oh yes. When the 9th of May, Victory Day, approaches, memories of the great victory are everywhere. You can't escape it. And sometimes, well, under Vladimir Putin, the whole |
| 1:31.8 | celebration has assumed cult-like dimensions. And some manifestations of it are unusual, if not |
| 1:42.1 | bizarre. Militarization starts early. |
| 1:45.7 | And what you just described is an example of how early it starts. |
| 1:48.8 | It's a newborn baby wearing a World War II or Great Patriotic War style hat with a red star, hammer and sickle. |
| 1:57.3 | And that's how this hospital in Kemerova in Russia celebrates the great victory, dressing newborn babies in wartime uniforms. |
| 2:08.0 | Then there are prams, styled as tanks, taxis with tank turrets on them made of plastic or plasterboard or whatever. |
| 2:18.3 | That's how pervasive it is. |
| 2:21.4 | And of course, it raises eyebrows. |
| 2:23.3 | As we record at lunchtime on Tuesday afternoon in the UK, there's been a trading of attacks |
| 2:29.4 | between Russia and Ukraine, hasn't there? |
| 2:32.1 | Business as usual, or war as usual. |
| 2:35.3 | In Ukraine, at least four people have been killed. |
| 2:39.7 | There have been strikes on Odessa in the south, Kharkiv, in the northeast, |
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