Vicki Pepperdine, Beauty pageants in 2019, Labour women for leader

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.1 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2019

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Worzel Gummidge is back this Christmas with a remake of the classic books by Barbara Euphan Todd. Vicki Pepperdine - star of ‘Getting On’ and podcast ‘Dear Joan and Jericha’ - plays the fairground doll Aunt Sally. But this is a very different character from the rosy-cheeked femme fatale made famous by Una Stubbs. How has the story been updated for the modern day? What’s it like to spend hours having your head wrapped in latex? And what’s the attraction to playing female roles that defy expectation?

For the first time, five major beauty pageants - Miss Universe, Miss World, Miss America, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA - have been won by black women. People around the world have seen this as a milestone in representation. But are beauty pageants still relevant and necessary in 2019? And can these competitions be feminist? Salma Haidrani is a journalist who documented her experiences as a contestant in Miss England’s 2018 heats. Tanya Gold is a journalist at the Guardian. Leanne Levers is a political scientist.

There are currently six women being discussed as a future Labour leader: Jess Phillips, Lisa Nandy, Emily Thornberry, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Angela Rayner and Yvette Cooper. How likely is it that the Labour Party will select a woman? And what do Labour’s women voters want from the party’s next leader – both those who voted for them this time – and, those who cast their vote elsewhere?

Presenter - Jane Garvey Producer - Anna Lacey Interviewed guest - Vicki Pepperdine Interviewed guest - Salma Haidrani Interviewed guest - Tanya Gold Interviewed guest - Leanne Levers Interviewed guest - Helen Lewis Interviewed guest - Helen Pidd

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0:41.0	This is the Woman's Our Podcast. On the program today, did you know the five
0:46.0	major beauty pageants Miss Universe, Miss World, Miss America, Miss USA and Miss
0:51.8	teen USA have all been one by black women. What is changing and
0:56.8	what do people think? What do women think in particular about beauty
1:01.0	pageants in the 21st century? We'll talk about that this morning.
1:04.2	We'll also have a chat with Vicky Peppodine who's in the new TV version of Wurzel Gummage,
1:09.8	but we start with a conversation about who the new labour leader is going to be.
1:14.8	Much talk about the fact that this time round it has to be a woman.
1:18.9	And the story running today is that former flatmates Rebecca Long Bailey the Shadow Business
1:24.6	Secretary and Angela Rayna the Shadow Education Secretary are going to run
1:29.3	together on a dream leadership ticket some people would say there are other names in the frame
1:35.0	Jess Phillips Lisa Nandy Emily Thornbury and Yvette Cooper have all been
1:39.6	mentioned as so too has at least one man, AKEA Starma.
1:44.0	So let's talk to Helen Lewis, staff writer for the Atlantic and Star of Stage and Screen.
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