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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Versailles #71: Relegating Russia

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Join me and other history friends on Flick - a great app for history friends and important conversations!

My agora friends and others are going to be in New York for a special conference on 29th June - meet Mike Duncan, Kevin Stroud, David Crowther and more! Search Intelligent Speech Conference now! Use the code WDF to get 5% off your ticket!


There was nothing simple about the allied policy towards Russia. The adventures of William C. Bullitt and a failed conference at Prinkipo were all the allies had to show for their attempts to fix Russia, which meant ridding the world of the Bolsheviks. Of course, the allies also had considerable forces of their own in the different Russian fronts, in the Northern theatre based at Archangel, in the South near the Crimea and in Siberia at Omsk. This latter theatre contained the base of one Admiral Alexander Kolchak, and on 26th May 1919, the finishing touches had finally been put on a document of incredible significance. The allies, it seemed, were willing to recognise Kolchak's government as THE government of Russia!


This was nothing less than a declaration of war on the Bolsheviks, but if you asked Lenin, he would have said without much of an effort, that the allies were at war with the Bolsheviks anyway. The impetus behind making their pro-Kolchak policy official was the successive military triumphs of his regime. The problem was, in spite of what the big three might have thought, these triumphs were very impressive, but they had been impressive a month ago. In the space of that month, while the German treaty was handed over, the Italians were peeved and the Greeks landed, a great deal had changed. This period of change was not felt in Paris though, because the big three were steadily informed of the situation. Who supplied their information? The very faction they wished to see come out on top, Admiral Kolchak.


This produced a tragic situation whereby allied help, such as it was, came far too late to make any difference. The allied recognition of Kolchak, while it was effective in bolstering the morale of him and his men, did not have much of a material impact. The allies, in other words, had moved too slowly, and not done enough, to make any difference. This was, in many respects, the story of the big three's life in the Peace Conference. In addition to their recognition of Kolchak though, the allies forwarded EIGHT demands (not seven as I say here, before going on to list eight...oops!) which Kolchak would have to adhere to if his regime was to enjoy allied support. Kolchak agreed with the terms - what did he have to lose after all, when his forces were on the backfoot, and allied help was so desperately needed? In the end, the allies treated the Russian front the same as they treated the Turkish, Eastern European, African, Middle Eastern and indeed the German front - they acted too slowly, with inadequate information, and made a giant mess in the process. We live with the consequences of their mess today, so why not have a listen and see just how much stuff you can blame the big three for today?!

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Calling all New Yorkers. Concrete Jungle where podcast dreams are made of. There's nothing you can't listen to or something.

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Anyway, the Intelligence Speech Conference is taking place in New York, in a location which I can't remember the name of, which you can go and find out more about by going to Intelligent Speechconference.com.

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Why would you do that?

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Well, if you are interested in podcasting,

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if you are a listener to

0:26.5

Mike Duncan's History of Rome or

0:28.7

Revolutions or David Crowther's History

0:30.6

of England or Kevin Stroud's

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history of English, then

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you should be very excited because

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those three fellows will be live and in person at that event.

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There'll be lectures going on, there'll be chances to meet and greet, and of course there'll be chances to socialise with all of your favorite history podcasters and listeners.

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It's a great place to bond with people that you've been listening to for a long time and it gives us a great

0:54.2

chance to meet you in person and say thanks for listening, thanks for supporting, and hey, how are you

1:00.0

doing? Let's go for a pint. Unfortunately, I won't be there, but several people who I am very fond of

1:06.1

will be. Several people in the Agora Podcast Network will be there too. This is an Agora podcast event primarily

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and we're very excited about it. So if you'd like to find out more, you know where to go by now,

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Intelligent Speechconference.com. Or click on the link in the description below and use the code

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WDF to get 5% off your ticket. The ticket will set you up for the all-day long conference, so make sure you

1:28.9

sort yourselves out in time and tell your friends that these wonderful podcasters are going to be

1:34.7

there live. If this goes well enough, I'm sure we'll be doing more in the future, and I'm sure

1:38.9

I'll have the chance to show up then. But, as it happens, I'm simply too busy at the moment to

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