Hey, wonderful's welcome to episode 309 of the JV club with my guest, Vera Sola.

I very much encourage you to check out her music, as indeed I very much encourage you to enjoy

this episode that we did together. We had a great time.

Hope everyone is doing well. I'm going to say you were very backlit, so there's a lot of mystery to what's happening right now. I feel that I'm very brightly lit but in this kind of mysterious... Is there a secret

camera?

I'm absolutely not a...

What if I didn't tell you? Oh I'm sorry yes there is there's cameras everywhere oh really yeah they were like

and I was like is it's gonna be filmed yeah like oh no no absolutely not and I

showed up like this as you would feel comfortable and really yeah oh no that is that's a

rude awakening it was terrible I saw the photos later did you at what point do you get to go like

I mean at this point in my career I never really do.

You know, you just kind of go like, okay, sounds good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think there was a certain point too, which I, like I don't know exactly what it was, but there was a point at which I just stopped being so critical because there was just sort of enough out there like yeah I was like oh I take so many

pictures with just like some nice person like at a con where the lighting is horrible yeah

that I just had to go like give it to God like if you believe it God or whatever that

means but there was just a certain point I was like all right I'm gonna feel like I look

pretty gross like a lot of the time and I guess that's the downside of people wanting to take pictures with you, but that's not a big downside.

I mean, for me, it's that there's never, I mean, one in a thousand photographs of someone singing no matter how beautiful they are is good

Ditto I with yeah, I mean I look like a gargoyle anytime or worse

I'm always like what's happening to all my vocal like what a thick what's happening

neck totally yeah that's absolutely especially if you're up on a stage and someone's

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