Hey everyone. I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Cape Up.

Given the events of Charlottesville, the racism, the bigotry, the unabashed display of

white supremacy, you need to hear from Veneta Gupta, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights right now.

Benito Guo Gupta, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Thanks, it's great to be here.

President Trump addressed again the situation in Charlottesville.

Just give me your reaction.

It is incredible to me that it is newsworthy in 2017 that the President of the United States has condemned racism and white supremacy. Let's just unpack that, right?

Like right now, as I'm speaking here, all of national TV and all of cable news and probably news internationally is covering

the fact that the president of the United States has finally condemned racism

and white supremacy 2017.

Look these conversations for the last seven months, anything related to President Trump has

reduced many people to sort of sputtering, if not silence, just were sort of shocked into, as you can tell

even in this question. I don't even know what to say.

Well, I think that's right. I mean, I think that what is normal has totally shifted I mean when you think

about when Steve Bannon was appointed to the White House knowing all

right as White House strategist. As White House strategist, knowing all about his record, having been the leader of Bright Bart,

the Alt-Write, the Alt-Right now has become really, I think, a sanitized word for white nationalism.

And the fact that he has been in the White House for, you know, now eight months kind of pushing

an agenda for this White House, that in all ways has been decidedly very anti-civil rights.

I mean this has been a presidency and an administration that at every turn any one of these

things would have done any other president in and yet every day they just

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