Oh my god, it's like a cat or a dog show, but it's girls. It's just a girl show.

Welcome to your wrong about the podcast that is not a pageant, but a scholarship competition.

And how dare anyone suggest otherwise.

I scraped the bottom of my vast miscongeniality, not like of the pageant world for that one.

I am Michael Hobbs. I'm a reporter for The Huffington Post.

I'm Sarah Marshall. I'm working on a book about the Satanic Panic.

And if you want to support this show, we're on Patreon at patreon.com slash your wrong about.

And as you may have noticed last week, we both have other podcasts. I have a show called Maintenance Faze.

Sarah has a show called Why Are Dads and those are available on your telephone wherever you

listen to podcasts. Yeah, we're just, you know, called 1-800-Y Are Dads.

And it's getting that one more. And today, we are talking about Vanessa Williams.

I'm really excited. Oh my god. Do you know that I wrote a weird little prose poem once called

Mrs. About the Fates of various Miss Americas? No way. Yes, I found it.

Oh man, we're going to talk about some of these people today. This is great.

Try read it. Yeah, find some people you remember. Okay. Margaret Gorman, 1921 won the title of Miss

America in a sea green chiffon and later owned a Greyhound named Long Goodie. Best Myerson, 1945,

the first and only Jewish Miss America, ignored multiple suggestions that she changed her name,

served as chair of the Anti-Defamation League, and was arrested for shoplifting. Elizabeth Ward,

1982, admitted to having a one night stand with Bill Clinton during her reign as Miss America,

and filed for bankruptcy in 1999. Yeah. Gretchen Carlson, 1989 was nannyed by Michelle Bachman

as a child. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, they all do each other's hair. Unbelievable. Oh, here's Vanessa.

Vanessa Williams, 1984, the first black Miss America in the pageant's history, was forced to resign

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