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vana Stradner asserts that Putin is dangerously escalating hybrid warfare, using drones to challenge NATO and test Article 5. She notes Russia employs Soviet psychological tactics, like nuclear saber-rattling and "reflexive control," exploiting Western fe

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Ivana Stradner asserts that Putin is dangerously escalating hybrid warfare, using drones to challenge NATO and test Article 5. She notes Russia employs Soviet psychological tactics, like nuclear saber-rattling and "reflexive control," exploiting Western fears. The West must respond decisively with power and aid for Ukraine, not words, and actively counter Russian plots and intelligence operatives. She highlights Moscow's failed attempts to destabilize Moldova, underscoring the necessity of continued financial and technical support there.


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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

Avana Stradner, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, is publishing most recently at the

0:16.6

Telegraph. That's the London Telegraph. The headline tells the story. Putin's psychological

0:23.1

warfare against the West has reached another terrifying level. Subhead, London and Washington

0:29.5

should call the Russian president's bluff and increase pressure on the Kremlin.

0:34.6

Right, Ms. Strattner, I welcome Ivana now and recapping the backstory here.

0:39.7

Over these last days, there have been unexplained but likely, presumptively Russian launched,

0:47.2

drones appearing at odd places across the European map, Denmark, for example, and most recently

0:53.7

the Copenhagen, the Munich airport, we also have

0:58.5

reason to believe that these will continue. The alarm bells set off in the European Union so much so

1:06.7

that Mr. Starrmer of NATO, Mr. Rudy of NATO, and then the major powers of the European Union,

1:15.6

including Finland, gathered in Copenhagen at an emergency meeting called by the Prime Minister

1:21.5

Mate Frederikson, who heretofore has been very clear pointing fingers at Russia for interfering in European affairs.

1:31.2

This all is a positive, however, what is to be done?

1:35.2

And why is Moscow launching drones to Harris the leaders of the European Union?

1:44.1

Ivana, a very good evening to you.

1:45.5

There's more to say about the shenanigans of the Kremlin,

1:50.9

but the drones are a vivid example.

1:53.6

Is this warmaking?

1:55.3

Is this standard Soviet doctrine that Putin is remembering from his childhood?

2:00.1

Why is he doing this?

2:01.2

Good evening, too.

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