You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs, and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made.

I'm Rishi Kesh Hirway.

Last year, Vagabon released her third album, Sorry I Haven't Called, which I've been listening to a lot.

So I wanted to revisit an episode that I recorded with her back in 2020 about her breakout song, Water Me Down.

The episode also features the voice of Eric Littman, who co-produced the track. He passed away in June

2021, way too young. Vagabond's new album is dedicated to him. If you haven't heard this episode

before, I hope you like it.

When Leticia Tamco started making the second Vagabond album, she really wanted to produce the entire thing on her own.

It would be a new sound, and producing was still a relatively new skill for her, but she wanted to tackle it head-on and do it all herself.

On this song, though, Water Me Down,

Leticia actually had a co-producer, Eric Littman.

It's the one exception to her otherwise entirely self-produced album.

In this episode, she breaks down how she and Eric collaborated to make the song and why it was worth making that exception.

It really waters me down.

Hi, I'm Leticia Tamco, and I make music as Vagabond.

I was at my friend Eric Lippman's house in Bushwick, New York.

We met at a mountain show.

Our friend used to host these shows where you hike up a mountain with your instruments in Cold Spring, New York,

and you play at different points of the hike.

So I performed one, and Eric just needed a ride.

So we met through the carpool and became great friends.

He is someone who has been really supportive of my journey as a producer.

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