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🗓️ 16 June 2021
⏱️ 64 minutes
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0:00.0 | Mid-morning with Mike Graham. Talk Radio. |
0:04.0 | Welcome to Wednesday, as we used to say. |
0:07.0 | It is a beautiful day out there. It may not be quite as hot in every part of the country as it is down here in the southeast, but 30 degrees it's going to hit, so it's a good play. |
0:14.0 | You can either be at the beach, in the back garden, not wearing very many clothes in the park, or at least somewhere where you can stay cool. |
0:21.5 | I'm going to stay cool in the studio if I can, but I have to say it's been difficult |
0:25.2 | staying cool this week with all the nonsense and the moving of the goalposts and the ridiculous |
0:30.4 | static sort of data versus dates argument that's been going on. |
0:34.9 | Let's talk to Baroness Fox of Buckley, who is, of course, |
0:42.2 | director of the Academy of Ideas, non-affiliated peer. Claire, very good morning to you. |
0:47.8 | Good morning, Mike. How are you doing? I'm fine, but like everyone else, you know, very frustrating. Yes. You sound a lot calmer than I do, because I have not been calm literally |
0:51.9 | since really Sunday, think I think I think |
0:56.4 | actually trying to stay calm is one of the contributions we have to make because in |
1:01.7 | some ways I just think it becomes so demoralizing to be in a state of fury all the |
1:05.8 | time so I'm trying to get a sense of perspective and trying to you know because |
1:09.8 | people are getting demoralized I think it's important that we have a sense of perspective and trying to, you know, because people are getting demoralised. |
1:11.1 | I think it's important that we have a kind of future orientation. |
1:14.8 | Yeah. |
1:15.3 | We will be free and so on and so forth. |
1:17.2 | I mean, we've got, I think, something to play from you in the Lords about extending the restrictions, which we'll get to in a second. But I mean, you know, just from the point of view of pure academia, you know, I'm not sure |
1:29.4 | what the government is looking at that's telling them that we're in a worse situation now than we |
1:33.9 | were this time last year. Well, I mean, we aren't in a worse situation than we were this time |
1:39.3 | last year. All the figures, all the stats, all the data, and I don't think that should be the |
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