Welcome to the Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Podcast. The podcast to help you in your journey

towards becoming a wise, empathic, genuine and connected mental health professional.

I'm your host, Dr. David Puder, a psychiatrist who splits his time practicing psychopharmacology,

individual and group psychotherapy, medical director of a day treatment program,

medical education research, and teaching, residence, and medical students.

Alright, so welcome back, and we are going to get into the different aspects of empathy today.

And some of the use of micro expression in terms of understanding the unconscious and dream analysis

and psychological defenses and ways to use it to improve therapeutic alliance,

ways to understand it in terms of object relations theory, counter transference,

and warnings about using it. And so this is the third part of the using micro expressions to create micro connections.

And I'm here with soon be Dr. Arianna Cunningham.

Third times the charm, right? Yeah, so it just might be the best part.

So Arianna, tell me what are the three different types of empathy?

Yeah, so basically the three elements are the cognitive, effective, and compassionate

with this associated concept that I guess kind of maybe isn't necessarily part of empathy,

but it's necessary to maintain it, which is self-other distinction.

So those three parts with this associated concept.

Okay, and so tell me what cognitive empathy is.

Yeah, so when we say cognitive, I mean, just the word itself is more of like a mental,

mentalizing conception here. It's someone's understanding of the other person's experience.

And what I really liked is that that can be subdivided into intuitive cognitive empathy

and pursuit cognitive empathy. Intuitive is I guess more of like mimicry or resonance,

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