Using DRO Procedures in Clinical Settings: Apollo Case Study Series 11

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

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🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jim Moore, Chief Clinical Officer of Apollo Behavior, joins me in the 11th installment of the Apollo Case Study Series. In this podcast, Jim also brought three of his Apollo colleagues into the discussion: Lydia Lindsey, Christina Nylander, and Lauren Elliott.

We started off the show with Lydia providing some background on her ABA career and how it brought her to Apollo. Spoiler alert: we managed to fit in a shout-out to Auburn University's ABA program (insert the obligatory "War Eagle" chant! (note: Christina and Lauren were guests in ACSS episodes Six and Nine, respectively).

This conversation centered around the use of Differential Reinforcement of Other (DRO) behavior procedures that the Apollo team implemented with two clients. As such, we discuss the following

From a conceptual perspective, is DRO a reinforcement or punishment-based intervention?
Why they chose this procedure over a more specific FCT intervention.
The importance of determining a precise Inter-Response Time.
How to avoid ratio strain.
How to successfully fade DRO schedules.
Balancing the effectiveness and efficiency of behavioral interventions.
The importance of accurately re-setting the DRO interval.
Coaching behavioral technicians to implement this procedure correctly, even when it is challenging to do so (see Dr. Claire St. Peter's excellent work in the general area of Treatment Integrity too).
The Seven Steps to Instructional Control (disclosure: Amazon Associates link).
The "London Cabbies Test."
The importance of conducting client-oriented research in clinical settings.

If you are interested in learning more about Apollo Behavior, you can follow them on Instagram, LinkedIn, or visit their website here.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to the behavioral observations podcast, stimulating talk for today's behavior
0:14.0	analysts.
0:15.3	Now here's your host, Matt Sequoria.
0:19.6	All right, welcome back to another installment of the Apollo case study series.
0:24.1	I'm joined by Dr. Jim Moore.
0:27.0	And Jim, you've brought a whole host of people back on the show and a new face as well.
0:32.1	So I'm going to let you handle some introductions and then set the table for our discussion this morning.
0:37.5	Well, we have our DRO Dream Team here.
0:41.1	Most of our listeners will remember Christina Nylander and Lauren Elliott from previous podcasts,
0:47.5	but I'm proud to also introduce.
0:50.8	A new member to our Apollo team, Lydia Lindsay, joined us from a previous position all the way in Louisiana and came and joined us.
1:00.6	And jumped right in, and kind of how we got here was Christina had us once again, kind of our jack of all trades of Apollo has yet again moved the location.
1:12.6	So she is in a different clinical location now than she was the last time she was on the podcast.
1:19.0	And Lydia took over Christina's previous caseloader.
1:23.5	And Lauren being the clinical director of that particular location, Lydia inherited little guy with some pretty serious elopement.
1:32.3	And we're really excited to talk about our use of difference or reinforcement of other behavior as we kind of talk about today's case studies, which has now kind of grown into evaluation of this procedure with some other
1:46.3	clients showing some similar behaviors. So Lydia, why don't you just introduce yourself to the
1:51.6	listeners. Tell us, we always like to say, how did you kind of fall into behavior analysis?
1:57.7	How did you become a BCBA? And tell us a little bit about you. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm
2:03.2	Lydia Lindsay. I actually got into ABA in college. So I went to Auburn for my undergrad,
2:09.3	where you go. And I started off wanting, I was a rehabilitation and disability studies major and a
2:16.2	psychology minor because my nephew was actually diagnosed with autism.
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