Using Art to Heal from Narcissistic Abuse [176]
Flying Free
Natalie Hoffman
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 June 2022
⏱️ 38 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now, and you're listening to the Flying Free |
| 0:10.2 | podcast, a support resource for women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden |
| 0:16.6 | emotional and spiritual abuse. |
| 0:21.6 | Welcome to episode 176 of the Flying Free Podcast. Today I have with us |
| 0:27.4 | Jennifer Kramer. She's an artist, a licensed art therapist, and an online coach who helps women overcome the lasting effects of narcissistic abuse. |
| 0:37.0 | She's the creator of the redefined process, an approach that uses a combination of spontaneous art making and responsive writing. |
| 0:47.0 | Jennifer developed this process while recovering from her own experience with narcissistic abuse, and discovered that the key to growth was to reconnect |
| 0:56.5 | with and redefine her own identity. Welcome Jennifer. |
| 1:01.7 | Thank you. I'm so excited to be here and have this conversation. So I've |
| 1:05.5 | been following you on Instagram and I highly recommend that you go over and follow her. |
| 1:09.9 | She's a really it's a really good account to follow. |
| 1:12.7 | She's got some great practical things you can do |
| 1:15.8 | and I've really enjoyed her Instagram account. |
| 1:19.4 | I would like for you to tell our listeners what art therapy is in case people haven't heard of that and how is it different from other forms of treatment that people might be getting? |
| 1:32.0 | Yeah, so art therapy is a mental health profession that requires a master's degree and licensure to practice it. |
| 1:41.0 | A lot of people think it's maybe a certification or not on the same level as, for example, a licensed marriage and family therapist or a licensed counselor or social worker, but it is the same level of licensure and education required. |
| 1:53.2 | I did not know that. |
| 1:54.5 | That's fascinating. |
| 1:56.2 | Yeah, and so there are a lot of therapists out there |
| 1:58.5 | who like to try to incorporate art therapy techniques |
| 2:01.3 | and they might say that art therapy is a modality that they use, |
| 2:05.0 | but unless they have some specific training, |
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