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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Using ABA to Build Better Health and Fitness Habits: Session 303 with Michal Pollack

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8 • 648 Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 24 June 2025

ā±ļø 60 minutes

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Summary

Michal PollackĀ joined me to discuss how she uses her training in Behavior Analysis to help her with her personal health and fitness goals.

Michal is a Clinical Director atĀ Apollo Behavior. In this episode, we talk about:

  • How she got her start in Applied Behavior Analysis.
  • How she found her way to Apollo, and what she enjoys about working there.
  • How she realized that getting fit doesn't require playing team sports, or being an athlete more generally.
  • How spending time abroad during a gap year motivated her to adopt a healthier lifestyle.
  • How going to the gym regularly helped her improve her emotional wellbeing.
  • How she developed grocery shopping habits that helped her eat healthier meals.
  • How she doesn't weigh herself frequently, and the rationale for this practice.
  • We both talk about the pros and cons of wearable devices, and how I useĀ The Whoop StrapĀ (note, this is an affiliate).

I want to make clear that during this podcast, it's important to note that neither of us are health or fitness professionals. We're not attempting to provide specific advice for listeners that's outside of our scopes of expertise.

Instead, a better framing of this episode is to consider this a conversation between two BCBAs talking about how they apply behavior-analytic principles in their own lives.

As such, if you're looking to make changes to your fitness, please consider working with a credentialed professional, with the input of your primary care provider.

You can follow Michal on TikTok or LinkedInĀ hereĀ andĀ here. If you'd like to learn more about working at Apollo, you can read about themĀ here.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, thanks for joining me in session 303 of the behavioral observations podcast.

0:04.4

McCall Pollack joins me today to talk about how she uses her training and behavior analysis

0:08.2

to help her obtain her personal health and fitness goals.

0:13.4

McCall is a clinical director at Apollo Behavior, and yes, this is part of our Apollo

0:17.5

behavior series.

0:18.9

In this episode, we talk about how she got her starting, applied behavior analysis,

0:23.1

how she found her way to Apollo and what she enjoys about working there,

0:27.1

how she came to the realization that getting fit doesn't require playing team sports

0:30.6

or being a particularly great athlete.

0:32.7

She talked about how spending time abroad during a gap year motivated her to adopt a healthy lifestyle.

0:38.3

We talked about how going to the gym regularly helped her maintain her emotional well-being.

0:44.1

We talked about the grocery shopping habits that she developed over the years to

0:48.1

max, you know, to help her make better eating decisions. We talk about her practice of not weighing herself frequently. And conversely,

0:58.1

I talk about how I weigh myself every single day. And we kind of get into our own motivations for

1:03.8

these very opposing points of view. We talk about wearables, the pros and cons of them. I talk about

1:08.9

the woupstrap that I've used for the last several years that has really helped me. And then I guess one of the thing I want to make

1:16.1

crystal clear is that during this podcast, as you're listening to it, I want you know, we're not

1:21.3

trying to dispense medical advice or fitness advice or anything like that. We're not credential,

1:25.7

you know, personal trainers or any, you know,

1:28.2

things like that. Someone like, you know, Sarah Burby might be who I had on the show a while ago.

1:33.1

And there are plenty other behavioral professionals out there who've gone on to get advanced

1:37.0

training and, you know, these health-related disciplines. So, so it's just two behavior analysts,

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