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USAID Closure Puts “Millions of Lives at Risk,” Humanitarian Groups Warn

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News Commentary, News, Politics

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🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

President Trump on Friday called for the closure of the U.S. Agency for International Development, America’s main humanitarian and development agency. The administration has already been dismantling USAID, over the last few weeks, forcing employees out and cutting off billions of dollars in foreign aid. Under the plan, the agency is to be left with less than 600 staff out of about 10,000. Critics, like former USAID official Jeremy Konyndyk say the closure will “put millions of lives at risk” and could undermine US foreign policy. We’ll look at what feeding USAID into the “woodchipper,” as Elon Musk has pledged, means for those who rely on its services, which include HIV treatment, disaster relief, and children’s health. Guests: Jeremy Konyndyk, president, Refugees International. He also led USAID offices during previous administrations. Joia Mukherjee, chief medical officer, Partners In Health Elissa Miolene, reporter covering USAID and the U.S. government, Devex Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:32.7

You've probably heard that the Trump administration is gutting USAID, a major source of humanitarian aid around the world.

1:42.1

This tiny piece of the American budget nonetheless has supported countless programs in children's health, disaster relief, and HIV treatment.

1:48.2

While it's not at all clear why Elon Musk and Donald Trump have so aggressively moved against USAID, it is clear that some very poor people will suddenly have less care, fewer treatments,

1:54.5

and attenuated programs.

1:56.2

We talk about the on-the-ground impacts of losing USAID and efforts underway to save the agency.

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It's all coming up next, right after this news.

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Welcome to Forum.

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I'm Alexis Madrigal.

2:16.6

There have been critics of USAID since its creation during the Cold War.

2:21.5

Some of them have come from the left, people suspicious of any vehicle of American power, no matter how soft.

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