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🗓️ 10 March 2023
⏱️ 56 minutes
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This week, in the first part of our two-part special on the battle, John McManus sets the scene for the fighting within the dense and hellish jungle of Guadalcanal between the US Marines and Japanese forces.
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0:49.0 | And John, you've decided that what we're going to do is know an enormous bone today, like one of the biggest bones possible. |
0:57.0 | The ultimate, like enormous bone, Guadalcanal, which is like the epic land sea battle of World War II, at least on some levels. |
1:08.0 | Just unreal. |
1:09.0 | Weirdly coincident with Stalingrad that we were talking about, James and I were talking about, and you joined us to talk about Len Lys and Stalingrad. |
1:16.0 | Weirdly coincident with that event really, isn't it? I mean, it's a peculiar how they sort of sit across each other, don't they? |
1:23.0 | Yeah, and have something of the same effect on their respective theaters, because after Guadalcanal, certainly the Japanese are on the defensive. |
1:31.0 | I mean, they were still on the offensive after Midway. I think there's a tendency because Midway is such a big victory for the US Navy to think, okay, well that's the turnaround. |
1:41.0 | Now Japan's going to lose the war. I really push back over that against that over the years. |
1:47.0 | But they're still on the offensive in spots, and there's, of course, there's a lot of ways it can still win the war. |
1:53.0 | Guadalcanal is certainly one of these backbreaker battles they get drawn into, almost similar to where the Germans are drawn into Stalingrad by their own kind of dysfunction. |
2:05.0 | But the worthiness of the objective on some levels too, but it just doesn't redound at their advantage. |
2:12.0 | Well, set the scene for us, John. For those who weren't listening last week, we should explain where Guadalcanal is. |
2:20.0 | It's like the southern tip of the Solomon's, which is, what were we saying last week? |
2:26.0 | It's east coast of Australia. To get there, you have to fly to Brisbane, and then you fly from Brisbane to Anara, and it's... |
2:36.0 | I mean, it's like a fire, not enough to have been there, it's absolutely amazing. It's like a fire, fire, or flight. |
2:44.0 | No, it wasn't us. It's more like three, I think, two and a half, three, something like that. |
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