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Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

USA vs. UK: ASGBI Ep. 8 - Are we going to be replaced?

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Science, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Education

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to our BTK/ASGBI Series! During this series, BTK fellow Agnes Premkumar and ASGBI hosts Jared Wohlgemut and Gita Lingam compare and contrast various aspects of surgery between the United States and the United Kingdom, debating who does what better. 

We are happy to be continuing our AI discussion further with another episode. While last episode lay a foundation on discussing the unique differences in the role and regulation of AI in both these countries, now we delve into some of the clinical challenges. What does AI and the future of surgery look like in underserved locations such as the battlefield or the rural communities. What does this mean for our future as surgeons…will we be replaced? And how should we address the integration of AI within our practices? 

We are thrilled to have our trio of experts discussing this further. Dr. Nelson is a surgical oncologist working at the Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio, he's very interested in expanding the role of AI within surgical education and beyond. Dr. Larson is a general surgery resident at the Mayo Clinic. She's currently in her research time and finishing up her master's degree in AI and studying the role of machine learning within surgical practice. Dr. Mukherjee is a surgeon scientist alongside an Honorary Consultant General & Major Trauma Surgeon in Liverpool, England. His current research bridges academia with industry and is aimed at transforming the treatment of critical illness through the development of next-generation therapies for pancreatitis-induced acute lung injury through the utilisation of cutting-edge AI driven drug discovery approaches. 

Take a listen and let us know what you think! 

References:
Johns’ Hopkins Ex-Vivo Cholecystectomy by a Robot
https://hub.jhu.edu/2025/07/09/robot-performs-first-realistic-surgery-without-human-help/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Behind the Night, the Surgery podcast, relevant and engaging content designed to help you

0:11.6

dominate the day. Thank you all for your continue listening of Behind the Knife.

0:25.9

While many long-term listeners of BTK have used our podcast and resources while in medical school,

0:31.6

we now provide resources tailored to medical student general surgery curriculum.

0:36.0

Over the past 10 years of BTK and in our day jobs,

0:38.8

we have dialed in the specifics of what medical students need to dominate their surgery rotation.

0:43.5

It contains about everything you need to include review text, video, audio segments, pictures,

0:49.1

reviewing over about 17 disciplines that you encounter during your time on service.

0:53.8

Enjoy the series and dominate the day.

0:56.3

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to our ASGBI series here at Behind the Knife.

1:01.2

My name is Agnes Premkmar.

1:02.7

I'm one of the Behind the Knife Education Fellows,

1:05.1

and I'm a general surgery resident who will be representing the U.S. side for this discussion.

1:09.7

I'm joined here again by our UK-based co-host, Jared and Gita.

1:13.6

Hi, I'm Jay Volgumit, a surgical resident based in the UK,

1:17.6

and the current president of the Moinane Academy.

1:20.6

We are the resident group of the Association of Surgeons of Great Britain and Arients for ASGBI. Hi, I'm Gita Lingam. I'm a surgical resident in the UK,

1:31.6

and I'm the vice president of the Moynihan Academy. We're here to pick up where we left off last time

1:37.1

regarding AI. We had a few more points to discuss, namely, what's the role of AI in under-resourced

1:43.7

settings and what are some ethical dilemmas in AI?

1:46.6

For example, are we all going to lose our jobs to the machines?

1:49.9

We hope not, Jared, but I'm sure it'll be an interesting discussion. So let's meet the team that's helping us explore this topic again.

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