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Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

USA vs. UK: ASGBI Ep. 7 - AI Policy and Strategies Across the Pond

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Science, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Education

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to our BTK/ASGBI Series! During this series, BTK fellow Agnes Premkumar and ASGBI hosts Jared Wohlgemut and Gita Lingam compare and contrast various aspects of surgery between the United States and the United Kingdom, debating who does what better. 

In this episode, we delve into all things artificial intelligence (AI) within surgery. Both the US and the UK have unique approaches to managing AI within healthcare and our experts help break down these key similarities and differences. We will discuss what AI and machine learning means, what does regulation look like in both these regions, and how is AI being used in both these countries. 

We are fortunate to have two representatives, Dr. Nelson and Dr. Larson, representing the US side. Dr. Nelson is a surgical oncologist working at the Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio, he's very interested in expanding the role of AI within surgical education and beyond. Dr. Larson is a general surgery resident at the Mayo Clinic. She's currently in her research time and finishing up her master's degree in AI and studying the role of machine learning within surgical practice.

We are fortunate to have Dr. Mukherjee representing the UK side. Dr. Mukherjee is a surgeon scientist alongside an Honorary Consultant General & Major Trauma Surgeon in Liverpool, England. He has a strong track record in research that spans the translational spectrum, with strengths in discovery science related to acute pancreatitis pathophysiology and mitochondrial injury, novel in vitro and in vivo experimental assay development and clinical translational research, including novel biomarker studies and clinical trials. He has won multiple awards, most recently the Hunterian Professorship 2024 from the Royal College of Surgeons of England.

Take a listen and let us know what you think- what do you think is the best way to promote and regulate AI within healthcare? 

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0:00.0

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0:45.7

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0:55.7

at maximum value. Learn more at Behind Theknife.org. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Behind the Knife.

1:02.2

We're back with another installment of our BTK and ASGPI collaborative series with our friends

1:06.9

from across the pond. I'm Agnes Premkmar, one of the Behind the Knife Fellows. I'm a general

1:11.7

surgery resident representing the U.S. side, and I'll let our UK-based co-host introduce themselves.

1:17.1

Hi, I'm Jared Volgamut, a surgical resident based in the UK, and I'm the president of the Moinian

1:23.4

Academy, the resident group of the Association of Surgeons of Great Britain and Ireland, or the

1:28.3

ASGBI. It's great to be here.

1:30.3

Hi, I'm Gita Lingham. I'm a surgical resident in the UK, and I am the vice president of the Moynihan Academy.

1:37.3

So let's get started. So today we'll be delving into all things AI. What is it? What role does it have in healthcare? What role does it have in

1:45.8

surgery? Are we all going to be made redundant by AI? So without further ado, let's introduce

1:52.1

our panel of experts joining us today. It's my pleasure to introduce Dr. Eric Nelson and

1:57.6

Dr. Ellen Larson from the U.S. side for the discussion. Dr. Nelson is a surgical

2:01.8

oncologist working at the Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio, and he's specifically

2:05.8

interested in expanding the role of AI within surgical education and beyond. Dr. Larson is a

2:11.2

general surgery resident at the Mayo Clinic. She's currently in her research time and finishing up

2:15.3

her master's degree in AI and studying the role of machine learning within surgical practice.

2:20.2

Hi there, I'm Eric Nelson.

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