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🗓️ 3 August 2025
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The US Supreme Court just set the stage for the biggest change to our congressional maps that we’ve ever seen, and it’s flying completely under the radar. Brian interviews Governors Wes Moore, JB Pritzker, and Kathy Hochul– all of whom discuss their response to Texas redistricting. And Pod Save America’s Jon Favreau discusses Trump’s Epstein scandal and what’s next for Kamala Harris.
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0:00.0 | The U.S. Supreme Court just set the stage for the biggest change to our congressional maps that we've ever seen and is flying completely under the radar. |
0:08.0 | And I've got four interviews this week, Governor is Westmore, J.B. Pritzker, and Kathy Hochel, all of whom discussed their response to Texas redistricting. |
0:15.3 | And I talked to POTSafe America's John Favreau about Trump's Epstein scandal and what's next for Kamala Harris. |
0:20.1 | I'm Brian Taylor Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. The biggest story in the country right now is |
0:27.3 | one that is flying completely under the radar. So here is the very simple explanation. |
0:32.6 | Last cycle, Louisiana Republicans were ordered to draw a second majority black district to be in compliance with the Voting Rights Act. |
0:39.2 | But Republicans sued by saying that the creation of a second black majority district so that black voters in Louisiana have fair representation was actually discriminatory against white voters, which is crazy because the whole point of the Voting Rights Act is to prevent |
0:55.9 | white voters from precluding black voters from getting fair representation. So again, a crazy |
1:00.6 | lawsuit to claim that a black district to protect black voters is somehow discriminatory |
1:05.4 | against white people. But the Supreme Court didn't think it was crazy. And they refused to rule on this question |
1:12.3 | because they asked for new briefings from the parties on a brand new question. And that was on whether |
1:17.9 | or not the very concept of black majority districts violate the 14th and 15th amendment to the |
1:23.0 | Constitution. So why does this matter? Because if the Supreme Court finds that these black majority districts |
1:28.6 | do violate the Constitution and that the Voting Rights Act is actually unconstitutional, then there is |
1:34.9 | nothing stopping all of these states under Republican control from redrawing their maps without |
1:40.1 | the required opportunity districts, the black majority districts. And there are dozens of those districts across the entire country to protect the voting |
1:48.0 | power of minority voters, which means all of those could be drawn out of existence. |
1:53.5 | Like right now everybody's talking about Texas gerrymandering their maps even further in an |
1:57.5 | effort to squeeze out five more seats for Republicans. |
1:59.9 | But if the Voting Rights Act is |
2:01.7 | gutted, those five seats that Texas is engaged in, that's going to seem quaint because dozens |
2:08.2 | and dozens of seats are going to be redrawn by Republicans. And the reality is that while California |
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