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Ups & Downs - WWE Raw Review (Dec 8th)

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🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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0:00.0

So lots of people were mad over the last seven days and I was a little bit surprised because I think Gunther, as John Cena's last opponent, is absolutely brilliant.

0:07.3

We talked about this on Saturday.

0:09.1

It is the man who lives to submit people against a man who has always looked you in your eyes and said,

0:13.4

you should never get up.

0:15.5

And after the promo, the cut on this episode of Raw, I am doubling down on this.

0:20.0

I am super duper pumped for

0:21.5

John Cena's last match, especially because if I was going to make a prediction, I think John Cena is going to win. That's going to make you for a woman fuzzy and tum-tum. I approve. That means nothing. Who the flum am I? Also, my friends, I'm going to Oppos and Downs. The only wrestling review show you need to go out there and share this with people who may need wrestling reviews in their life, which is very strange.

0:38.7

We do give the good bits and up and the bad bits of downs,

0:40.6

but of course we always try and be positive because wrestling is the most important or the least important things. And thank you very much to Norton, a VPN who is sponsoring this video. You don't what a VPN is, well, you can Google it, but essentially it's going to allow you to protect what you do do online, protect your data, and you can choose what location you want to appear in, and maybe that's going to help you with Saturday's main event, which is going down this weekend. There is a link down there, there's a QR code on the screen. Depending on what location you're in, you may need to do something different, but we'll walk you through it, and you can basically get up to 73% off, which is totally ridiculous. So thank you very much to Norton. Right, who wants to talk about Raw? I do. Otherwise, it'd be out of job. And that would make you happy, but please don't do that. Let's up those doubts. But yes, Mr. Ring General did walk out to kick off this week's episode of Raw, and he was all like, well, yeah. I did win the John Cena tournament. Now I get to win

1:30.6

John Cena. And, we're out to kick off this week's episode of Raw and he was all like, well, yeah. I did with the John Cena tournament, now I get to win John Cena, and what I have decided to do is to crown him the greatest sports entertainer ever. But in terms of the greatest wrestler ever, that's me Gunter. So right away, he told you how that story is going to go. Somebody's clearly been watching Rocky Four as well, because Good Thid did so, I'm going to make you give up and I'm going to break your spirit. So maybe it's a little bit of Batman versus Bain as well. And then he put a timer on the screen, a countdown clock. It's like four days and hours and minutes leading up to Saturday's main event, because when that thing gets to zero zero, zero, the legend of John Sina is dead. Like, I would have loved it if Carmela Hayes got to the final, right? But let's say that John Sina is going to win. You don't need to put Carmela Hayes in that position. But Gunter, he's already over, he's already got the power, and he gets to say things like this. I'm sorry, you could come at me with a knife, which would be very strange, but you're not going to be able to change my mind. He also said he's going to squeeze him until the hustle, loyalty and respect leaves his body, and though I don't believe that was a euphemism, because that would have ruined this, when essentially he put the microphone down and he left, but once again, this is why I think he is the best choice for all of this. He came across like an unhinged evil man. It's a bit like James Bond versus terrible person. I really can't stand all this revisionist history either. Because now one of the big jabs or big comparisons is, oh, it's like when Brock Lesnar beat the Undertaker and WrestleMania 30. Don't try and pretend that didn't turn Brock Lesnar into twice the star that he was.

2:54.5

It did. And if Gunther was going to beat John Cena, he would become this mythical beast. Although once again, I don't actually think that is going to happen. I am giving this an up. I think WW has made the right call here, and I want to see that match. That's all I care about. However, just to be an idiot, I do have a doubt. Now I do totally understand why, I mean, sounds like John Cena's had a crazy schedule this year anyway, but of course John Cena matches are only 50% of what John Cena is and his promos, well you could argue it's even more than 50%, even though that wouldn't make the maths work. I really wanted him to be here to give Gunther a fine speech, because as always, big match John would find things to say where you go, oh my goodness, I can't believe those words came out of his mouth. It's not a big deal. It's certainly not a bad or a negative thing. It's just something that made me a little bit sad in my tutsy toes. so I am going to give it a down. But do we ever need to talk about that again? No, because good grief am I excited.

3:44.1

We also then saw Ober Femi in the front row because he is taking on Cody Rhodes at that Saturday's main event. And honestly, man, given the no championships are on the line, I would have had Overfebby win, because what a way to introduce him to the main roster audience. What was EofS versus Clare Seine? I'm having a very, very good time. Ria Rippling and Oscar are at ringside so of course she could smell the shenanigans, put a one on the dick counter, and Oscar was getting involved, so Ria Ripley went to deal with her. But Oscar got involved for a second time, and that time, Ria did nothing.

4:15.2

It was like, okay, she's very picky and choosier about when she's going to bring balance to the Vosk. Guy to go for the moonsault, but Kari was able to turn that into the double stomp. And E.Sky was so mad. She'd German suplexed kaii sew in the ring apron, which is the hardest part of the ring, and you heard her go squish. But she also followed up with her Assay-E moonsop, which is always cool, put a one on the dive counter.

4:33.9

This is when Oscar was like... which is the hardest part of the ring, and you heard I go squish. When she also followed up with her Assay-y moonsault, which is always cool, put a one on the dive counter.

4:33.9

This is when Oscar was like, I'm going to do it.

4:35.6

I'm going to interfere again.

4:44.4

And Rio's like, no, you're not, mate. I'm going to throw you into a team with the time to keepers table area, which she did do. essentially EOSCII hit the moon's salt and she won.

4:46.3

So that's perfectly enjoyable.

4:47.3

I like it.

5:21.3

And now surely you can argue that Eosk Sky and Ria Ripley can have a tag team match against the Kabuki Warriors. They could also mean on next week's episode of Raw, we get Ria Ripley versus Asker. Now that's totally cool. I'm never getting mad at it. But I hope we do that big singles program between those two. Or do I even need If I am going to get it next week, who the flub are I talking to? I am going to give it an up this women's tag team division rules. Logan Paul then found the vision and he was all like, I didn't enjoy what Rain the stereo did to me last week. And that's why you Bronson Reed and you Brombreaker have to help me. Honestly, I think they're only there because of Paul Heyman.

5:38.8

They're like, fine, we'll help you, you absolute buffoon. Just go to show that nobody actually likes Logan Paul. There was also this very strange conversation between Logan Paul and Paul Heyman. When Hamel's all like, isn't it good? You do have people to back you up now. but just in case, here are your brass knucks, when they said the words just in case around about 42,8,869 times. And if they had kissed at the end of this, I wouldn't

5:45.1

have been surprised. They didn't do that. Ray Mysterio was then walking through the back as well,

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