Ups & Downs - WWE Raw Review (Dec 15th)
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, I need to rant. I shall apologise because nobody needs this, but I think the John |
| 0:04.4 | Siener, should he have tapped out debate, has been super-dooper fun and super-doper interesting, and whichever side of the fence you land, I respect you. But if your issue with it is because Gunther doesn't move ratings or Gunther doesn't sell merchandise, that is totally crazy. Unless you work for WWE, what do you care about shirt sales? |
| 0:22.0 | Also, Gunther is a heel, so his job isn't to sell t-shirts and actually is to sell the t-shirts of the people he's fighting with. If you don't understand that, well that's perfectly fine as well, but maybe you need to engage your brain. That was way too strong. I mean, do you know the amount of wrestlers that would have been cast aside if it was down to just these two things? |
| 0:38.0 | Of course, it is super duper important, but that can't be the bill and in all, especially when you are a fan and you don't have to worry about the bottom line. It's totally nuts. It's like these people that wait until ratings come out and say, I told you it was a good or a bad show. What's the number got to do with anything? Just put your |
| 0:55.3 | ass in a chair and watch it and go, I like this or I didn't like it. All right, everybody calm |
| 1:00.5 | down. Also, hello. Welcome to ups and downs for Monday Night Raw. Clearly Johnson retirement |
| 1:08.0 | has totally broken me, although my gosh, it's been a barrel of laughs. Also, at the start of Raw, we had the big video package as you would expect. I went Gunther sunk in the choke. W.W. had edited it. So just before Sina tapped out, you saw his career flashed between his eyes. Man, did that get me right ended, Tom Tom. Now I think it was brilliant. And tomorrow, I'll go back to thinking that he should have won. This is why it's so damn good. You should be going back and forth. It's called emotions. Let's up those doubts. Right. Okay. Going back to the intro as well, do keep arguing about this as well because it's good for Eelsia. But in terms of the Simon Miller debate panel, whatever that means, you're not allowed to come me anymore and say |
| 1:44.8 | Gunther wasn't the right guy, because the ring general came out of this start of episode of |
| 1:49.0 | Raw. My gosh, he was absolutely brilliant. I mean, for so much people were absolutely livid and |
| 1:53.6 | were booing this guy when he got the microphone with the biggest smile on his face and said, |
| 1:57.6 | man, I did exactly what I said I was going to do. I made John Cena tap out like a little bitch. When he said that, there was one kid in the crowd that looked to him like, man, I'm going to become Luke Skywalker and I'm going to grow up and strike you down. He then threw the mic after this and he did kind of dance around for a little bit and he got an alley-in-ounce table and he said it again. But it's even better when you think about this in K-Fay turns, because Ginther was given this airtime and he decided, well, I'm not going to say much, but I absolutely am going to be called John Cena a little bitch, and again, he was so damn happy. If you tell a non-wresting fan to watch this and say, oh Gunther just won the lottery, they will totally believe you. The only real issue is what happened afterwards, because the camera did follow him backstage. Yes, Otis and Tuzawa there, and they're like, you disgust us, you horrible man. As was our truth, he was like, well, I think you're the worst person ever. And I understood this, when Adam Pierce found him, the raw general manager, and he was like, oh man, I bet you're really |
| 2:51.8 | proud of yourself. You know that John Sina can't answer all of this because he has retired for good, so you have to leave and go home. I was like, man, what has Gunther done? He won the John Seder tournament in order to win John Sina, and then he beat him, and as a bad guy, he's gloating in it. I have seen people try to commit attempted murder on Raw Smackdown and nobody does anything about it. This is not how the raw general manager should be, especially when they are a baby face. It should be like, oh, well, Gunther, you're mighty proud of yourself. Well, here's an obstacle, here's a challenge, here's another guy and Gunther should destroy every single one of them. I love Tuzauer. I think he's great, but he was literally right there. You could have booked that match even though that would have been crazy. And Gunther kicks that guy's ass too. I thought this was a bit wishy-washy and a little bit misplaced. Imagine that during Star Wars. Sorry Darth Vader, you just have to go off screen now. Nobody wants to see you. But then it got really amazing again because Google, all right, I will go home. |
| 3:43.5 | And when he got to his car, AJ Stars was just standing there waiting for him. Now, that was also a little bit crazy because he didn't know that Gunther was going to be banned from the building. But eventually, Gunth did get in his vehicle. And before he went, he said, AJ, come here. You can't see me. And then he laughed again. |
| 3:59.0 | This was like a dad telling dad jokes at Christmas and Gunther drove off and Adj Stars was really, |
| 4:04.1 | really mad. So of course, now I think he's probably going to retire AJ Stiles too. Imagine |
| 4:09.5 | he retires AJ and Brock Lezre in one year. This is going to be totally unhinged. But actually, I do have to |
| 4:14.8 | draw a line down the middle because 90% of this I thought was perfect. And again, we have a monster heel on our hands, which has to be the idea. And he should do this every single week until the end of time. So I am going to give it an up. But I did not like banishing him from the building. I just thought that was a little bit too ridiculous. I want to see him more. |
| 4:32.5 | I want to see him create even more havoc. I essentially want him to be the villain of the piece. And then we didn't see for the rest of the show. I've got to give that a doubt. However, at the same time, great promo. I'm locked in and I want to see what's going to happen. The joy then continue, because it was the Usos versus the New Day, and I'm never going to get mad at this. I mean, the Uso's are now back together again as a tag team, although J Uso is so going to have a meltdown sooner or later. And we have seen this few time and time again, but that's one of the reasons I liked it. It made me feel nostalgia. And when you do take nostalgia and wrestling, it just creates a wonderful |
| 5:04.6 | pie that you want to eat. At 1.2, J. Uso and Ryan to read the repost, and we've gone back to the idea, well, he's Samoan, so he totally null-sold it when he went crazy, when of course the New Day were like, we're hills now, so we're going to cheat. They didn't really cheat, but they were like using distraction methods. That's just what they do. |
| 5:40.0 | Grace and Waller, who puts a one on the DIC board, because of course he was out with his boys, so he really was going to town on this, when finally the referee saw him doing it and was like, man, you have to go to the back. I was like, well, finally, we're actually doing something about this. And that's when I became a massive nerd. I was like, wait a minute, everybody knew that Grace and Waller was going to do this because he does it all the time, mate. |
| 5:39.7 | And yet Gunther got banished. something about this. And that's when I became a massive nerd. I was like, wait a minute, everybody knew that Gracie Walla was going to do this because he does it all the time, |
| 5:56.5 | mate. And yet Gunther got banished, but this guy was allowed to come to the ring. Don't worry about that. It would ruin your life. Jay then eventually came back and hit a dive as well as I won the dive counter when Kofi just threw him into Simba of the still steps. But that's where the new day hit their finisher, when Jay Uso took his med pack and he broke the pin up at the 112. |
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