Update: How to Lose Your Name with Hayley Paige (Cheval)

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Feelings & Co.

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7 • 13.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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It's been a few years since we last spoke with Hayley Paige about the legal battle that took her ideas, her job and her identity. In this episode, we get an update from Hayley. And we get to use her actual name! You can shop for Hayley Paige dresses at ⁠hayleypaige.com This is an episode from the new season of TTFA Anthologies, go to ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ to listen to the full season(and past seasons)! For full ad-free episodes, the full back catalog and a listener community, you can join us ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Want to be on the show? Call or text 612.568.4441 or book a call ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi guys, it's Nora. If you like what we've done here on Terrible Thanks for asking, you might
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1:18.3	If you've been a listener for a while, you might remember this story.
1:29.8	It's about a woman that we had to call Chival when we were making the episode, not because that was her actual name, but because she had lost her name. She had lost her name when she lost her brand name. She'd also lost all of the work that she'd created under that
1:35.5	name and was barred from the industry where she had made a name for herself under her actual name.
1:43.0	It was a situation very similar to a situation that I, myself, narrowly
1:49.7	escaped with the podcast and a story that a lot of people have experienced from Taylor Swift
1:56.0	on down to creatives and artists that you've never heard of and never will. It is a specific kind of
2:03.5	stress, a specific kind of grief, and it is also one that resonates through many fields and
2:10.3	many situations. When we first recorded this, it was 2022. So I had just gotten ownership of all of my podcast work. And Taylor Swift
2:23.7	was re-recording all of her albums in a show of Defiance over not owning her master's,
2:30.1	defiance in capitalism, let's say. And now it's 2025. Taylor Swift owns her masters,
2:38.4	and the woman we called Cheval has her own update that you'll hear at the end of this episode.
2:48.9	When you meet a person, it's normal to introduce yourself to say, hi, I'm Nora McInerney.
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