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That's what you see on CNN or MSN. There's always some big break or something that happened, but then ultimately I had to conclude that I didn't think I was going to get it.

And so that's why we had to change the thinking on how to get some answers.

Well, I can only say so much. My attorney advised me not to get involved in the details at this time because what I say could be taken around way and caused me a problem.

But I am very concerned also. I've wondered all these years what happened to her. And I would also like to know. So I have no problem with my daughters and other family looking into the situation because I would like to know the answers myself.

And he actually slammed his hand down on the table. Something to the effect of, you know, the women in his life had a habit of getting the last word. And that used to peve me off. And quite frankly, I found that, quote, chilling based upon, you know, some of the stuff that we were talking about.

38 year old Donna May Barrel disappeared from Mosquigo was consen on the evening of May 6, 1979. Her husband, John Barrel, told the police that the two had an argument and Donna May left in her car to cool off.

John said that he went to bed that night and later heard someone inside the house slamming doors. He assumed that Donna May had returned. Then he claimed to have heard a car turn around in the gravel parking lot across the street.

When he got up, he found Donna May's car in the garage, but she was nowhere to be found.

Donna May's case eventually went cold for decades until a very determined detective picked it up and started working on it.

Amarissa and from Wondery, this is Episode 201 of The Vanished, part four of Donna May Barrel's story.

Hello, I'm Hannah and I'm Seruti and we are the hosts of a Red Handed, a weekly True Crime podcast.

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Back in May of 2018, I covered Donna May's story in a three-part series.

If you haven't listened to those episodes yet or you want to listen again for a refresher, I suggest you pause this here and go back and listen to those first.

What we learned in those first three episodes was that Donna May's husband, John, had a history of being abusive to Donna May and also other women he had relationships with, both prior to Donna May and after.

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