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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

#UNTRUTH: The Psychology of Trumpism with Filmmaker Dan Partland

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

This week on the Influence Continuum, I had the pleasure of sitting down with two-time Emmy winner Dan Partland, an extraordinary documentarian. He asked me to speak on the MAGA cult in his new film, #UNTRUTH: The Psychology of Trumpism, which will be streaming on virtually every platform. Dan’s new film highlights what I have been saying for years—Trumpism is not just a political movement; it operates as a destructive authoritarian cult and utilizes known mind-control techniques to disconnect Trump’s followers from reality, reinforce their loyalty to him, and silence dissenters and dissidents. In 2020, he released a film, #UNFIT: The Psychology of Donald Trump, during the 2020 election cycle. The film stars many top people: George Conway, Joe Walsh, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Malcolm Nance to mention just a few experts. It is really well done and well argued. Come listen to this fascinating interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

0:08.4

And I'm very excited to talk with Dan Partlin today, director and producer,

0:15.1

multi-emmy winner of documentary and nonfiction TV.

0:19.9

And you've done work on A&E's intervention,

0:24.2

the 60s on CNN, American Race with Charles Barkley for TNT.

0:30.1

I'm curious about Charles Barkley being a basketball player,

0:33.4

but we'll circle that later,

0:35.7

because we have more important things to talk about with your

0:39.3

new documentary hashtag untruth in capital letters, the psychology of Trumpism.

0:48.2

And disclosure to my fans, I was interviewed as part of an august lineup of incredible people, really.

0:57.2

I was very honored, Dan, to be included.

1:00.5

Everyone from George Conway, who graciously wrote the forward to the re-release of the Cult of Trump book,

1:08.1

which you kindly featured in it.

1:11.5

Ruth Menguette and John Gartner, Malcolm Nance, Anne Nelson, Denver Riggleman, Anthony Scaramucci,

1:21.7

Michael Steele, Joe Walsh, a lot of my favorites.

1:26.9

A murderer's row, really, of people with fabulous insights into the Trump era.

1:33.1

And former members of the cult of Trump, you know, too.

1:37.9

So I know that you did a great documentary a few years ago called unfit about Trump. So why the update? Why untruth?

1:51.8

And what's your thoughts? Yeah, who knew back in 2020 that even if Trump lost, we would need a sequel?

1:58.9

Yeah, no, unfit was called The Psychology of Donald Trump, and it really was interviews

2:05.5

with a lot of political people, political conservatives, but mental health professionals and

2:10.1

psychologists to really talk about the man himself.

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