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The Gist

Unsympathetic Empathy

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Veteran diplomat Stuart Eizenstat joins The Gist to discuss The Art of Diplomacy: How American Negotiators Reached Historic Agreements That Changed the World, drawing on his work from Camp David to Holocaust reparations. He shares what it means to practice “unsympathetic empathy,” how German officials came to see moral obligation in restitution, and why negotiations fail when mutual interest is absent. Eizenstat contrasts the courage of leaders like Sadat and the UAE’s Mohammed bin Zayed with Arafat’s refusal to compromise—even amid opportunity. Plus, the Sackler immunity case is a prime example of a major real-world development that resulted from a Supreme Court acting far outside its supposed 6–3 rigidity. Produced by Corey WaraProduction Coordinator Ashley KhanEmail us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: ⁠⁠⁠⁠GIST INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow The Gist List at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Pesca⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the year 2000.

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Everyone, everywhere is having fun, except me.

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On BBC Eye Player.

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I worry you're growing up too fast.

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Yeah, we can't be your little duck here forever, can I?

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Inspired by a true story.

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You walk out this house a boy, one day you'll come back.

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When you do, you will be a man.

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Oh, and hold your breath.

0:21.5

What it feels like for a girl. I wish I could look like you.

0:24.7

Bebe, you can. Why don't you?

0:27.0

Watch on BBC Eye Player.

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0:36.3

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0:47.3

We've brought you down here to save us, really.

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It's Wednesday, June 18th, 2025 from PeachFish Productions.

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It's the Gist, I'm Mike Peska.

1:09.0

Yesterday, Brad Lander, who is the city's New York City's third

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