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🗓️ 14 April 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Dr Julia Ravey and Dr Ella Hubber are both scientists, but it turns out there’s a lot they don’t know about the women that came before them. In Unstoppable, Julia and Ella tell each other the hidden, world-shaping stories of the scientists, engineers and innovators that they wish they’d known about when they were starting out in science. This week, a Chinese malariologist who hunted for clues in ancient medical texts to find a cure for one of the world’s deadliest diseases.
During a time of global political tension, the Chinese government set up a top-secret project to help communist troops in North Vietnam struggling with malaria. And tasked with this mission was young scientist, Tu Youyou. With a drive to help people after falling ill as a teenager and seeing the horrors of malaria firsthand, Tu turned to traditional Chinese medicine to look for potential treatments. And, after finding a hit, decided she should be the one to trial it...
Named as arguably the most important pharmaceutical discovery in the last half-century, winning the 2015 Nobel Prize, discover how one woman used an overlooked herb combined with modern science to ultimately save millions of lives.
Clip credit: Vietnam Special: War Without End, 1966 (BBC Archive)
(Image: Chief Professor Tu Youyou, laureate of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine acknowledges applause after she received her Nobel Prize from King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden during the Nobel Prize Awards Ceremony at Concert Hall on December 10, 2015 in Stockholm, Sweden. Credit: Pascal Le Segretain/WireImage via GettyImages)
Presenters: Ella Hubber and Julia Ravey Guest Speaker: Dr Xun Zhou, University of Essex Producers: Ella Hubber and Julia Ravey Assistant producers: Sophie Ormiston, Anna Charalambou and Josie Hardy Sound Designer: Ella Roberts Production Coordinator: Ishmael Soriano Editor: Holly Squire
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0:00.0 | Why would anyone want to steal a toilet? |
0:05.0 | If they think they can get away with it, they'll get away with it. |
0:08.0 | But this isn't any old toilet. |
0:11.0 | This is a solid gold toilet, worth nearly five million pounds, stolen from a palace. |
0:17.0 | A solid gold toilet has been stolen. |
0:20.0 | Police are trying to flush the robbers out. |
0:22.9 | It's a tale of security failures, ruthless robbers and missing millions. |
0:27.6 | Crime next door. |
0:28.7 | The Golden Toilet Heist. |
0:30.3 | Listen first on BBC Sounds. |
0:33.7 | In a library in central Beijing, a scientist has her head buried in a pile of ancient books. |
0:41.1 | Pouring through the pages, she scans the texts for recipes that might hold the key to a major medical problem facing countries around the globe. |
0:51.6 | And there, in a more than 1,500-year-old book, she spots something, |
0:57.9 | the mention of a plant that can treat intermittent fevers. And she thinks, yes, maybe this could be it. |
1:07.9 | I'm Julia Avey. And I'm Ella Hubber. We're scientists turned radio presenters. |
1:12.5 | And these are the stories we wish we'd known when we were starting out as scientists ourselves. |
1:16.7 | This is unstoppable for discovery on the BBC World Service. |
1:23.0 | Today's story belongs to a scientist who turned to traditional practices to find a treatment |
1:28.8 | for one of the world's deadliest diseases, all under the cover of a top secret project. |
1:36.5 | And her name is 2UUU. |
1:39.9 | A top secret project? Count me in. |
1:43.5 | Yes, and the reason that this project was top secret was because it was part of a much bigger political battle which came to a head in the 1960s. |
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