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Picture two pregnant people walking into the same hospital to give birth.

They have identical medical histories and have experienced identical pregnancies.

They're even seeing the same obstetrician.

The only difference between them is that one is black and the other is white.

According to a study of births in New Jersey hospitals,

the black patient would be about 20% more likely to get an unscheduled C-section than the white patient.

That number takes into account factors like differences in health status or access to good hospitals and doctors.

Without controlling for those variables, the number is even higher, with researchers finding that

black pregnant people are almost 25% more likely to get an unscheduled C-section than their

white peers. C-sections can, of course, save lives, but they also carry all the risks of a serious

surgery. So the idea that people might be pressured into having C-sections unnecessarily is troubling enough. The fact that this seems to happen disproportionately

to black people is even more disturbing. For Scientific American Science quickly, I'm Rachel

Feltman. Joining us today is Adriana Corridor Well Drawn, an assistant professor of economics

at North Carolina State University,

and one of the authors of the working paper I mentioned.

Thanks so much for taking the time to talk with us today.

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