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Well, hello and welcome back.

My name is Stephanie Safarian, and you're listening to episode 444,

that, by the way, is my favorite number, 444,

of sustainable minimalists.

This is a show about intentional and eco-friendly minimalist living.

It is 2024, surprised to know on, and yet still, even though we're in 2024 traditional gender norms

remain in many of our households and so on today's show we're hoping to change that.

Today's show is about teaching our children what we want them to know about partnership

so that they can grow up and start their own homes with equality in mind.

That unpaid labor, also known as housework, tends to, at least in this this household still be the woman's job the

woman's work but it doesn't need to be so today my guest is Lori Sugarman Lee

she is a certified fair plate facilitator. She's a family coach and she's also the author of the new children's book coming out soon. It's called Our Home, The Love, Work, and heart of family.

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