So where were you born? I was born in South Africa. So I was born in a town called Somerset

West. It's just outside of Cape Town. It's a suburb of Cape Town. And yeah, lived my entire,

yeah, my entire my entire youth was spent there. So I grew up in a very interesting time during

that country's history. They worked to learn. So he grew up in a very interesting time during that country's history that worked to learn.

So he said, you know, I know you're traveling and playing sports a lot, but if you're ever in

town and you're looking for some extra work, you know, just jump in and we'll show you the ropes

and you can see what we're doing.

And I jumped at that and that was another gift too because I started working for them and

I just started picking up trash basically on multifamily properties around their buildings and then

eventually became part of their maintenance crews. And now, I mean, the banker of your business is

you and your family. So put you in a little bit of a better

situation so how does it work the vehicle that we use for this is life insurance and i know this

is a four-letter word and people are going to roll their eyes does that make sense absolutely i was

one of those guys that had a heel lock pulled by the way yeah 2008 2009. 2008, 2009. And that doesn't feel good, just so we're clear. That doesn't feel.

No, I saw all this stuff happening. And that's why also for me, there's a very big difference between financial freedom and financial sovereignty. Yeah. Huge difference.

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