Hello everybody and welcome back to RevLeft Radio and deep into history. Today we are collaborating

with our my good friend and recent co-collaborator Arjen from deep into history to talk about history,

to talk about why we're into it, how we got into it, the importance of studying it,

and we thought this would make a really cool not only addition to our broader episode where we

went pretty in depth about American history in particular, but for our Patreon listeners on both

podcasts to get a little extra discussion because this is something that, you know, as I was

talking to you and doing our previous episode, I knew almost immediately I would love to do an

episode like this with you. So first of all, how are you doing? And for those on my end of the

audience spectrum who might not be familiar with who you are, can you kind of introduce yourself as

well? Yeah, thank you for having again. It was such a blast and I'm glad we get to continue our

conversation because it's so rare that you get to kind of share your love of history with someone

who loves it as much as you do, which is a really fun experience. And I think like our audiences

have a ton of comments, so it would be really great if all of us, you know, get together. Definitely.

I host the narrative history in desensation called deep into history, and I tell history as a story

so that it sticks with you so that you can recall it in a way that you recall one of your favorite

movies. And, you know, so that when you're armed with that knowledge, the world around you suddenly

starts to make more sense. Definitely. And I want to get into like history as essential for like

self knowledge and understanding the world. But the first thing I want to ask you is how you got

into it. And I think this is obviously like sort of on one level and obvious and easy question.

But on another level, it's a little deeper because, you know, at least at my experience in the

American educational system and probably beyond America, growing up, and you know, this is,

there's many factors for why this is the case. But often history is taught in a very dry,

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