You know, one of the only cases from history that I think you can't explain with, you know,

Chinese lanterns or some other types of misidentification would be like the 1561 Nuremberg case where

they literally thought they saw a sky battle take place.

You have to wonder if there's like type three and two civilizations out there.

Maybe there is a Star Wars type battles that have happened and you know, some of that stuff is debris that's floating around.

It's asteroid, some maybe some of that stuff's fallen to earth and landed and what would have happened over history if say, you know,

some the Roman army found something like this.

Where would it, where do you think it would be today and where it would have ended up?

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast.

I have the distinct pleasure of sitting this afternoon with Jeremy Riss, also known as alien scientist.

He is perhaps a bit obscure to most of you.

I have been following his work for years.

I initially encountered him in the landscape of what are colloquially known as conspiracy theories and what set

Jeremy apart was his scientific approach for every conspiracy theory that he believed in.

He seemed to debunk a dozen and I know that conspiracies exist.

I am pleased to find anybody who deploys a proper scientific toolkit in sorting the wheat from the chaff.

And so in any case, I've been I've been watching him from afar.

More recently, I've been paying attention to his work on so-called UAPs or UFOs as those of us

who have been watching this space for years formerly called them.

And I've invited him on Dark Horse to talk to us primarily about the UAP question.

Are we being visited by extraterrestrials?

Have we been in the past? Should we expect some sort of contact between us and them in the future?

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