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This Day in Esoteric Political History

United States vs One Book Called Ulysses (1933) w/ Kurt Andersen

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

It’s December 6th. On this day in 1933, a judge ruled that James Joyce’s “Ulysses,” which had been effectively banned in the United States, was not obscene.

Jody and Niki are joined by Kurt Andersen to discuss the ruling, the history of obscenity laws in the United States, and what to make of the current debates over free speech.

Kurt’s recent books are “Fantasylad” and “Evil Geniuses.”

Find a transcript of this episode at: https://tinyurl.com/esoterichistory

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia.

0:07.0

My name is Jody Abergan.

0:09.0

This day, December 6th, 1933, Ulysses can enter the United States.

0:18.0

This is based on a really fascinating court ruling, not one about immigration, but one about

0:22.0

the book Ulysses by James Joyce.

0:24.0

Over the previous five years or so, the book had been basically officially barred from being

0:29.3

imported and distributed in the United States because it was deemed too obscene. So in this ruling, as the

0:36.0

New York Times put it, Judge John M. Woolsey concluded that, quote, Joyce's stream of consciousness

0:42.4

study of everyday life in Dublin was many things,

0:45.3

brilliant and dull, intelligible and obscure, honest and disgusting, the one thing it was not,

0:51.0

he ruled, was obscene. The case was actually called I love this United States

0:55.6

verse one book called Ulysses and there are also tons of other really fascinating

1:00.6

tidbits in here it also of course set a precedent and gets it all

1:03.7

sorts of questions about art and obscenity, censorship, free speech. So here to

1:08.4

discuss one book called Ulysses is as always Nicole Hammer of Columbia. Hello Nicky.

1:13.3

Hi dirty and our special guest for this episode someone we've been trying to get on the

1:16.7

show for a long time one of my favorite people authors and radio host Kurt

1:21.2

Anderson Kurt welcome to the show hello both of you happy to be here and I will plug your latest book is called evil genius is the previous book fantastic work is called fantasy land but we are here to talk about one book, Ulysses, and

1:35.2

Kurt, I'm giving you the task of summarizing Ulysses for our listeners.

1:39.7

Well, that will take the rest of the 20 minutes.

1:41.6

No, there is obviously a long way to summarize this very long book and there's a short way. The short way I guess would be to say it is the thoughts that go through the mind and some of the behavior that happens in the lives mainly of two guys,

1:55.9

Stephen Daedalus and Leopold Bloom and also some women, Molly Bloom and others.

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