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🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Dot-connecting throughout history, from the fringes to the White House.

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0:00.0

This is an On the Media podcast Extra. I'm Bob Garfield. For much of the past month, a new edition has joined the audio scape of cities across the country.

0:20.0

Fireworks, loud ones, keeping you up all night ones.

0:24.4

And during those sleepless hours in the dark of night, the brain can do some remarkable dot connecting.

0:31.0

One Twitter thread went viral reading,

0:33.8

My neighbors and I believe this is part of a coordinated attack on black and brown communities by government forces.

0:39.8

It's meant to sound like a war zone because a war zone is what it's about to become.

0:45.4

The fireworks were being supplied by the NYPD to cause chaos and provide a pretext for a violent police crackdown?

0:55.0

It sounds unlikely to say the least, and people reporting out the story have found little evidence to back it up,

1:02.0

finding instead that vendors in neighboring states were selling the fireworks in bulk at a discount

1:08.0

likely to young people looking to blow off steam. But those drawing connections

1:13.8

between fireworks and law enforcement should maybe be given a pass, because if you were a person

1:20.3

of color in this country, the most outlandish conspiracies too often turn out to be real. And as journalist Anna Merlin, author of Republic

1:30.0

of Lies, explained to me in a conversation last year, conjuring them up is a pastime as old as history.

1:38.2

One of the earliest examples of that that we see and the one that you'll read about over and over

1:42.5

is this suspicion among ordinary Romans that Emperor N see and the one that you'll read about over and over, is this suspicion among

1:44.9

ordinary Romans that Emperor Nero set the fires that burned much of Rome on purpose, that he set

1:51.1

those fires to rebuild the city to his liking and to pin the blame for the fires on his political

1:57.0

enemies, in this case, the early Christians. And so the phrase Nero fiddling as

2:02.7

Rome burns comes from that. There was this urban legend that spread that Nero, while the fires

2:08.5

were raging through the city, was at his vacation home, plucking a liar or fiddling, placidly watching

2:15.2

the city burn. Hmm. The proto-fals flag operation.

2:19.7

Yes, the proto-fals flag.

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