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Scratch & Win

Unholy Alliance

Scratch & Win

GBH News

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51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Part 2: In the early 1970s a radical idea took shape: tearing down Boston’s elevated downtown highway, and rebuilding it underground. But making it happen will require a grand bargain between two competing tunnel projects, and between bitter enemies.

Credits:

Host and scriptwriter: Ian Coss

Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

Editor: Lacy Roberts

Editorial Advisor: Stephanie Leydon

Fact Checker: Lisa Wardle

Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

Project Manager: Meiqian He

Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for the Big Dig comes from the Cape Playhouse in Dennis Village, now playing Anastasia the musical.

0:06.4

Up next, the Broadway hit Come From Away. Tickets at capeplayhouse.com.

0:12.6

The idea for the Big Dig began with an unlikely friendship.

0:17.3

During the highway debates in the early 70s, Fred Savucci, one of the highway opponents, went to a ton of meetings.

0:25.3

And across the table at many of those meetings was a man named Bill Reynolds.

0:30.7

He was there to represent the road builders.

0:34.0

He's a likable guy, but obviously he wanted to build all the roads, and I wanted to build none of the roads.

0:39.3

So we would meet every Thursday and almost always in disagreement on the substance,

0:44.7

but you get to know each other, you get to be pretty friendly.

0:48.0

One day, Reynolds tells Savucci, you and I, we need to talk.

0:52.8

We ended up at Jacob Worth's, which was kind of a sawdust on the floor, old delicatessen.

0:58.7

He wanted to talk about a highway, of course, but not any of the roads you heard about in the last episode.

1:05.6

This was about a highway that had already been built, called the central artery.

1:11.0

And Reynolds said, you know, I've been trying to figure out why you guys don't like highways.

1:17.2

Because highways are beautiful things.

1:18.7

They've built America.

1:19.6

They've built the middle crass.

1:20.9

And I've come to the conclusion that the reason you don't like highways is because the elevated

1:25.7

central artery is such a big, ugly, dysfunctional thing. It's

1:30.3

like a giant neon sign flashing saying, highways are bad, highways are ugly, highways don't work.

1:36.8

The central artery was one of the first elevated highways built anywhere in the country,

1:42.0

well before the anti-highway movement had gathered any real

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