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We Have Concerns

Unfriending Dunbar and Ending Conversations

We Have Concerns

Anthony Carboni/Jeff Cannata

News, Science, Society & Culture, Culture, Comedy, Internet, Pop, Games, Gadgets

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Dunbar's Number is the theoretical conative limit of friends any human can maintain at once. For years, social scientists have claimed that this upper bound was in tension with our modern, social media-influenced lives. But what if Dunbar's Number isn't true? Anthony and Jeff take a look at new study that might debunk the idea. Then, how often are you in a conversation that ends precisely when you want it to? Turns out, most people would like a conversation - any conversation - to be over sooner or last longer than it does. Jeff and Anthony examine some research into conversation.

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0:00.0

Yeah, I think what we're trying to get at here and what we're always trying to get at is that children are stupid. This is we have concerns. Hi, Jeff Canada. I have the carbony. Hello, concerned citizens. You know, Jeff, I don't know if we have ever

0:27.0

discussed this as an episode, but I know we've certainly brought it up before. This is something that comes to us from the Discord. Thank you for submitting stories in the Cool Science News Discord. Not just to not just to get on the show, but to discuss and have fun with with the rest of the concerned citizens.

0:45.0

Yeah, like the stuff we talk about on the show is a tiny fraction of all the awesome stories that are in the Discord in the Cool Science News channel. Yeah, it's it's a really it's a really wonderful place to just check in and get all kinds of great stuff. You want to find out more about joining that discord head to patreon.com slash we have concerns. We'll talk more about that a little bit later, but in the in the Cool Science News Discord. We had a Z Mansfield who's quickly quickly rocketing, I think, to superstar them as far as.

1:14.0

Concerned citizens go Z Mansfield submitted a story about Dunbar's number and I know we've brought up Dunbar's number, but I don't think we've done an episode on it. I agree. I don't think we have.

1:27.0

But the reason he brought up Dunbar's number now and if you're unfamiliar Dunbar's number is actually a set of numbers.

1:36.0

That was created it's it was about 30 years ago. It's the early 1990s. It was the it was the dawn of telecommunications.

1:46.0

Really like international telecommunicate like the internet stuff like that like.

1:51.0

The idea of being able to talk to people that aren't in your immediate vicinity.

1:55.0

Computers was happening, baby. Computers happened. Yeah. Computers was happening. They were connected to each other.

2:04.0

We were connecting to each other on terrible terrible bulletin board systems and things like that. Particularly the nerdier among us and then the techier among us were neat deep in it already by the early 1990s.

2:17.0

I was way too far into it. You want to talk about a kid who did not get enough socialization.

2:22.0

But Dunbar's number is a set of numbers created by British anthropologist named Robin Dunbar that argued the number of people basically the number of relationships that a human being can keep in their head.

2:40.0

Yeah, the upper bound for friends, right?

2:43.0

The upper bound for friends, but also the upper bound for a lot of different things. We're talking about he started with talking about the elite five, which I defeated all of them in Pokemon every single one of the elite.

2:58.0

Yeah, you think it's just the elite four, but there's a secret fifth.

3:03.0

You face yourself in the mirror after you've collected is subjugated. Yeah, after you've collected and subjugated so many living things and hurt so many other children in your in your quest for supremacy.

3:16.0

The fifth elite is you and you must face yourself in therapy for years.

3:23.0

But the elite five are supposed to be your best friends and loved ones. The five people that any time a day, these are the people that are you have the deepest connection with.

3:33.0

On your homepage of my space. Yes, this is this was Dunbar back then in the 1990s called it your top eight.

3:41.0

It always it always included Tom, so it was really a top seven. Yeah, it was done bars. It was done bars elite Tom plus seven is what he called it.

3:54.0

But also there was your close friends, which are one step underneath your elite five and that would be 15. That's the maximum. Then you have 150, which is the which is what we really think of as done bars number because that is the number of people that you can have stable social relationships with before your brain just goes, I don't have any more room.

4:19.0

Nope, no more friends. Sorry, no more people I can know no new friends right tattoo it on your abs because it is what your cortex says.

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