Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee All the Best.

In 2012, an article in the Atlantic was being widely shared among my friends.

It was called Why Women Still Can't Have It All.

And it was by a Princeton professor named Anne Marie Slaughter.

And I remember reading it several times and hearing from other full-time

moms that were friends of mine how validated they felt in their choice to stay home with kids.

Several months later, my husband and I went to dinner with some of his grad school friends.

And the women there, who were mothers who worked outside the home, were also talking about the article, but with a lot of consternation and a feeling of a bit having been betrayed.

And the article was a big deal in my different friends circles.

And it turned out it was a big deal all over the country.

It turned out to be one of

the most widely read pieces ever published by the Atlantic. And the author, Anne-Marie Slaughter,

continued engaging in the national conversation on the topic of work-life balance after the

publication of the article, and she eventually published a book called Unfinished Business, Women, Men, Work,

Family in 2015. And this is the book that we read for today's episode. And I'm so excited to

discuss it with my reading partner, Nyland McBain. Welcome, Nyland. Hi, Amy. Happy to be here.

Oh, thanks so much for being here. I'm so excited to talk about this with you. I always

begin episodes by talking about how I know each reading partner. And I was reflecting on this. Nylon and I are

friends now. We are neighbors and our kids are friends and we've had some fun adventures. But I was just

thinking, when did I first hear your name, Nyland?

And I remember it was in 2012.

And you had published an article that I believe, correct me if I'm wrong,

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