[Unedited] Ruby Sales with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

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🗓️ 16 January 2020

⏱️ 135 minutes

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Civil rights legend Ruby Sales learned to ask “Where does it hurt?” because it’s a question that drives to the heart of the matter — and a question we scarcely know how to ask in public life now. Sales says we must be as clear about what we love as about what we hate if we want to make change. And even as she unsettles some of what we think we know about the force of religion in civil rights history, she names a “spiritual crisis of white America” as a calling of today.

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0:00.0	Support for On Being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build the
0:04.4	spiritual foundation for a loving world. Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding
0:10.2	principle and animating force for our lives. A powerful love that helps us live in sacred
0:15.2	relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world. Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.
0:22.6	I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my unedited conversation with civil rights legend Ruby
0:28.0	Sales. There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.
0:36.8	Yeah, Diane, come. There's at least one place for one or two more people in the sofas, which are
0:45.2	our favorite places to spend the work day. So one of the things about, we just we build out this space
0:58.7	within here less than three years. We were previously in a big media organization working in
1:05.6	cubicle land. And you can see that we kind of went wild with what we wanted to be different.
1:14.0	And it's been really exciting for us to be able to think about having a hospitable
1:20.9	physical space that can also in which we can do what we do, we kind of translate the values and
1:27.8	virtues of our media space where hospitality is a big virtue for us. And as a result, that also
1:36.4	means that we have all these ideas that we can do things we've never done before. And this is
1:41.8	one of them. We've done plenty of public things. We've never done anything quite like this.
1:46.2	But somehow when we started talking to Jonathan, I mean, the origin of this convening is this,
1:55.4	the public theology re-imagined work that we're doing with Henry Loose Foundation. And
2:02.5	when we wrote that grant after having the conversations we had with Jonathan, it just made sense
2:08.5	to us that we could, that we were so excited about, not just about the work we wanted to do with
2:13.3	this, but the kind of ecosystem that Henry Loose Foundation is creating and wanting to make sure,
2:19.8	because one of my frustrations with the world right now is not that there's not enough good
2:24.8	initiative going on. We have such an abundance of good initiative, but I want more dot connecting
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