[Unedited] Rebecca Traister and Avi Klein with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

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Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2018

⏱️ 64 minutes

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The feminist journalist and the psychotherapist. “It’s partners and lovers and spouses…fathers and brothers and sons and friends.” The difference between apology and forgiveness. “Men are used to trying to fix things.” Trauma, and also healing. What we are naming with the impetus of #MeToo is, at best, an opening to a long-term cultural reckoning to grow up humanity; to make our society more whole. We explore this with psychotherapist Avi Klein, who works with men and couples, and feminist journalist Rebecca Traister. In a room full of journalists, at the invitation of the Solutions Journalism Network, we explored how to build the spaces, the imaginative muscle, and the pragmatic forms to support healing for women and men, now and in time. Rebecca Traister is a writer for “New York Magazine” and a contributing editor at “Elle.” She is the author of “Big Girls Don’t Cry,” “All the Single Ladies,” and “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” Avi Klein is a psychotherapist and licensed clinical social worker. He practices in Manhattan. His 2018 “New York Times” Op-Ed piece is titled “What Men Say About #MeToo in Therapy.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Rebecca Traister and Avi Klein — #MeToo Through a Solutions Lens.” Find more at onbeing.org.

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0:00.0	Hello beloved on being listeners and friends.
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0:17.1	Your generosity of every kind is gratefully received.
0:21.4	Thank you for being with us on this adventure.
0:24.8	Support for on-being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute,
0:28.6	helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world.
0:32.0	Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle and animating force for our lives,
0:38.0	a powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world.
0:44.0	Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.
0:47.2	I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being's Unheard Cut.
0:50.7	Up next, my unedited conversation with Rebecca Tracer and Ophi Klein.
0:55.8	There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever podcasts are found.
1:00.3	So this is really fun because how often do you get to introduce one of your own journalistic heroes,
1:07.5	mentors, and friends?
1:09.4	And it's very funny, Christa, because I cannot see you at all.
1:11.9	So it's like I'm introducing you at a like ghost.
1:14.6	Yeah, maybe I can't see you.
1:17.4	This woman probably requires no introduction,
1:21.6	but Christa Tippett is a Peabody award-winning broadcaster,
1:25.5	National Humanities Medalist, New York Times bestselling author.
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