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I'm Christa Tippett, up next, my unedited conversation with Joanna Macy and Anita Baros.

They have created a wonderful new translation of Rhino Maria Rilke's Letters to a Young Poet, and there is, as always, a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.

Well, I wish I were sitting in a room with the two of you, but here we are.

Can I see you?

No, you can't see me, you're just going to hear me.

I'm going to be like, I'm like the voice of God coming straight into your thoughts.

And you into mine.

I'm not even going to look at my screen. I'm going to look at the room.

No, you would tree in front of my house.

That's a good idea.

I love, this is a little hard to get used to, but I sometimes close my eyes so I can't completely listen.

And it's such a joy to be with the two of you, and I can't really tell you how excited I was when I heard that you were translating letters to a young poet,

which I think somewhere, well, I feel like this book has as much as any time.

It's been part of my life for such a long time since I think Joanna one thing you and I have in common is those,

the early years we spent in Berlin and in Germany.

And we were both there in chapters of its 20th century tumult, which was kind of a fault line of the world's 20th century tumult.

And I do feel like it's a book that has really just, as much as any time in my lifetime, kind of met its moment and about a century after it was published.

I just, I have my book with me. I think the two of you have your books with you. And I really just want us to kind of talk about this book and read to each other.

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