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On Being with Krista Tippett

[Unedited] Avivah Zornberg with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2022

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

You probably know the outline of the Exodus story and its main characters: Moses, the Pharaoh, the burning bush, the plagues, the parting of the sea. And, in another realm of the power of story, the words “let my people go” and the arc of liberation from slavery have inspired people in crisis and catharsis across time and cultures. Call it “myth” if you will — as the Greek Statesman Solon said, myth is not something that never happened. It’s something that happens over and over and over again. Avivah Zornberg walks us through the Exodus story that is relived in the Jewish Passover and resonates through Easter. She is a modern-day master of midrash — the ancient Jewish art of inquiry for discovering the deepest of meaning in and between the biblical lines. What can look simple on the surface, as she reveals, is a cargo of hidden stories that tell the messy, strange, redemptive truth of us as we are and life as it is. Krista and Avivah Zornberg had this lovely, intimate conversation in the early days of this show, in 2005.

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On being with Christa Tippett is supported in part by the Fetzer Institute, helping build

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the Spiritual Foundation for a loving world.

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Fetzer's sharing Spiritual Heritage Report asks, how will we reimagine our spiritual

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infrastructure for today's time?

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Learn more at Fetzer.org.

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I'm Christa Tippett, up next, my unedited conversation about the Exodus story, with the

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Scottish Israeli master of midrush of Vivasornburg.

0:28.5

There is, as always, a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.

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Start talking?

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Or yes?

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Okay.

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All right.

0:40.6

Well, the first thing I wanted to ask you before we actually get into this story is I noticed

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that you were not always a teacher of religion.

0:50.3

And I wondered if you grew up reading the text with this midrush approach or is this something

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that you learned as an adult?

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That's interesting.

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Yes.

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I grew up, my first education in Bible was with my father.

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I used to learn with him every day.

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And he certainly was very imbued with this midrushic approach, which is in a way a very

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traditional approach.

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