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On Being with Krista Tippett

[Unedited] America Ferrera and John Paul Lederach with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2019

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

“Our discomfort and our grappling is not a sign of failure,” America Ferrera says, “it’s a sign that we’re living at the edge of our imaginations.” She is a culture-shifting actor and artist. John Paul Lederach is one of our greatest living architects of social transformation. From the inaugural On Being Gathering, a revelatory, joyous exploration of the ingredients of social courage and how change really happens in generational time. This interview originally aired in June 2018.

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0:00.0

Support for On Being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world.

0:07.0

Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle and animating force for our lives,

0:13.0

a powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world.

0:19.0

Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.

0:22.0

I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my unedited conversation with artistic conflict transformer,

0:28.0

John Paul Letterac, and conflict transforming artist, America Ferreira.

0:33.0

There is a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.

0:37.0

Thank you.

0:46.0

I had no idea what Christa had in mind when she said,

0:49.0

Hi-Ku, Monday morning.

0:52.0

So this is titled Monday Hi-Ku's.

0:56.0

The story is told of the master Basha and his disciple, Kikaku.

1:03.0

Of the morning that Kikaku came back from the fields and said,

1:07.0

I have written a hi-ku.

1:09.0

And Basha invited him, they sat, and he read the hi-ku.

1:16.0

Take a pair of wings from a dragonfly, you would make a pepper pod.

1:29.0

Five syllables, seven syllables, five syllables, perfect hi-ku.

1:37.0

Basha said, this is not a hi-ku.

1:44.0

You killed the dragonfly.

1:49.0

The hi-ku is add a pair of wings to a pepper pod.

1:59.0

You would make a dragonfly.

2:07.0

Under the end of his life, Basha said, across all these years,

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