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TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones

Unearthing Black Trans History

TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones

TransLash Media

News, Education, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Transgender, Lgbtq, Trans

4.3619 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In honor of Black History Month, Imara digs into the archives to unearth the incredible stories of two 19th century Black trans women. Archivist and scholar Riah Kinsey discusses what he’s discovered about Mary Jones, a sex worker and pick-pocket who made her way into New York City tabloids throughout the 1830’s. Imara and Riah piece together what we know about her remarkable life and wonder about what else there might be to discover. Then cultural organizer and filmmaker Mickaela Bradford discusses her new short film “Under False Colors.” It tells the story of Frances Thompson, the first known trans woman to testify in front of the U.S. Congress. 


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TransLash Podcast is produced by Translash Media.

Translash Team: Imara Jones, Oliver-Ash Kleine, Aubrey Calaway. 

Xander Adams is our senior sound engineer and a contributing producer.

Morgan Astbury is our social media coordinator. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, trans-fam. It's me, Amara. Welcome to the trans-lash podcast, a show where we tell

0:14.7

trans stories to save trans lives. Well, it's Black History Month, you know, despite the fact that certain people are saying that it doesn't exist.

0:23.8

And it's a time when we look back at the accomplishment struggles and stories of African Americans in this country.

0:29.9

And today I'm so excited to take a deep dive into history that has been so often erased, uncovered, or ignored.

0:39.4

And we're not talking about the history that we normally think about,

0:43.6

you know, namely in the 20th century, starting in the 50s and 60s.

0:47.4

No, we are going back to the 19th and even the 18th century

0:52.1

in order to unpack all that has been overlooked.

0:56.6

To do so, we'll be joined by culture makers and scholars who are reclaiming our past to build

1:01.8

a more just future, because we know that where we come from isn't just about honoring those

1:07.7

who came before us, but it's actually about showing us the road ahead.

1:12.2

First I'm joined by scholar Ria Kinsey, who takes us into the archives to explore the experience

1:18.0

of 19th century pickpocket and tabloid figure Mary Jones.

1:22.5

We're getting a trans history that speaks to this person, freely expressing themselves,

1:29.1

freely expressing their gender identity in connection with other people who are supportive.

1:35.5

Then organizer and filmmaker Michaela Bradford stops by to share the truly remarkable story of

1:42.7

Francis Thompson.

1:43.6

I just want folks to know that a black trans woman was one of the principal people responsible

1:50.6

for the passage of the 14th Amendment.

1:53.2

But before we get to these fascinating and inspiring conversations, let's start out as always

1:58.7

with some trans joy.

2:27.3

Thank you. Let's start out as always with some trans joy. Let's start out as always with some trans joy. Black trans men have long been at the forefront of expanding and reshaping what masculinity can look like. But that effort can be a lonely one.

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