Hey all, so I have a quick note before we do today's episode. A few weeks ago, we got a really

incredible email from a listener. It's maybe the best email we've ever got and it required a kind of a follow-up.

Like an important conversation had to happen after this email and so stick around after the episode because we will have that important

conversation inspired by this email. It's pretty fun. Okay, here is the show. So last November, I was in Grenada for a few days.

I ended up doing a city tour of the capital St. George's

and I went to see a waterfall. But there was one more tour my guide

suggested for me. He told me right off the coast of St. George's there was an

underwater sculpture park. He said it was like nothing I'd ever see. Life-sized

sculptures drilled into the

sea floor. He told me about one in particular that was made to honor those lost in

the transatlantic slave trade. It's a group of children in a circle seemingly chained together by their wrists.

Right there in the backseat, I googled the sculpture, and it's called vicissitudes.

Unfortunately, I can't swim, so I wasn't able to go and visit the sculpture park, but when I got back, I did find the name of the guy responsible for creating the sculptures.

And it turns out the tour guide's story on vicissitudes wasn't true, but there is a larger mission Obscura, a celebration of the world's strange, incredible, and wondrous places.

Today, we go to St. George's Grenada

and talk to the artist behind these mysterious sculptures

under the ocean, Jason Decarias Taylor. We learn about how he's trying to change the way

we view our oceans through his art and we hear the truth behind one of his most iconic

sculptures, vicissitudes. More after this. Can you describe what I would have seen had I been able to go?

Sure. So the project ending Grenada was my first sort of foray into the

underwater world. This is Jason Dicari's Taylor, a British sculptor,

environmentalist and creator of underwater sculpture parks all over the world. His first sculpture

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