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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Understanding Peter Sellars

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

Arts

4.8879 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Director Peter Sellars once staged "Antony and Cleopatra" in a Harvard dormitory swimming pool. His King Lear owned a Lincoln Continental. His work is complex. But what confounds some audience members has also won him ardent fans. One of them is Ayanna Thompson, a scholar of Shakespeare and performance studies who is now director of the Arizona Center for Medieval & Renaissance Studies at Arizona State University. Thompson’s new book, the latest in Bloomsbury’s "Shakespeare in the Theatre" series, explores Sellars’s influences and tracks the predominant theme of his work: a laser-like focus on race in America. We talked with Thompson and Sellars himself about what can be gained from striving to understand the impenetrable. Thompson and Sellars are interviewed by Barbara Bogaev. From the "Shakespeare Unlimited" podcast series. Published October 2, 2018. ©Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This podcast episode, “I Understand Thee Well,” was produced by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster and Esther Ferington. Ben Lauer is the web producer. We had technical help from Andrew Feliciano and Evan Marquart at Voice Trax West in Studio City, California and Brian Mendez at public radio station KJZZ in Phoenix. Special thanks to Julia Carnahan, Peter Sellars’s assistant, for her help in making this interview possible.

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0:00.0

What might we come to understand when we take the time to try and understand the things we can't understand?

0:12.6

From the Folcher Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.

0:17.2

I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folgers director.

0:19.9

The very idea of understanding a piece of theater or misunderstanding it or failing to understand

0:26.7

it has for much of the past 40 years been a predominant topic whenever the conversation

0:31.9

turns to theater director Peter Sellers.

0:35.3

Since the time he staged Anthony and Cleopatra in a dormitory swimming pool at Harvard,

0:41.6

Sellers, the recipient of a 1983 MacArthur Genius Grant, has been confounding audiences and critics.

0:49.4

His work has always been difficult. One reviewer called 1987's Nixon in China, good for a few giggles,

0:57.6

but only intermittently understandable. Writing about his 1994, Merchant of Venice, the New York Times,

1:05.5

said of the audience, those who held out to the end had the glazed look of hit-and-run victims.

1:11.8

But that impenetrability also has its ardent fans.

1:17.7

One of them is the scholar of Shakespeare in Performance Studies,

1:21.4

Ianna Thompson, who is now director of the Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies

1:26.3

at Arizona State University.

1:28.7

Thompson is the author of a new book about Peter Sellers, the latest in the Shakespeare in the

1:33.5

theater series from Bloomsbury. In it, she explores his influences, from the avant-garde

1:38.8

Marionette theater he watched growing up in Pittsburgh, to the Russian adjut-prop director,

1:43.9

Yuri Ljobamov to Japanese Kabuki

1:46.7

and tracks the predominant theme of his work Sellers laser-like focus on race in America.

1:54.0

Dr. Thompson came into the studio to talk about all this recently and joining her, we're happy to say,

1:59.7

was the subject of the book himself,

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