Understanding Israel’s “System of Domination”

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🗓️ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The process of Jewish expansion over Palestinian land has involved maintaining a "system of domination," says author Nathan Thrall on this week's Intercepted. In order to constrict "Palestinians into tighter and tighter space" over the decades, Israel has deployed a strict permit system, movement restrictions, walls, fences, segregated roads, and punitive actions such as arrests and detentions, even of children.

In “A Day in the Life of Abed Salama: Anatomy of a Jerusalem Tragedy," Thrall’s book, published just before the start of the current war, tells the story of one Palestinian man’s struggle to navigate Israel’s painful system of legal and security controls after his son’s school bus is involved in a fatal accident. Thrall joins host Murtaza Hussain in a discussion about the system of control that Israel maintains over Palestinians, violence in the West Bank, the future outlook for a negotiated solution to the conflict in Gaza, and possible escalation amid fighting at Israel’s northern border.

"A Day in the Life of Abed Salama" is a 2024 nonfiction Pulitzer Prize winner. Thrall is also the author of "The Only Language They Understand: Forcing Compromise in Israel and Palestine."

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0:00.0	The This is intercepted. Welcome to Intercepted. I'm Martaza-Hossain. As the Israeli
0:38.0	military campaign in Gaza grinds forward with the possible war in Lebanon
0:42.1	on the horizon, it has been difficult to think of what
0:44.6	the region will look like the day after these conflicts subside.
0:48.6	Prior to the war, Israel maintained a blockade over Gaza, as well as a suffocating system of control over the West Bank,
0:55.5	where millions of Palestinians live under direct military occupation.
0:59.9	Today, the West Bank is a cauldron, with regular violence from the Israeli military and armed
1:05.2	settlers aimed at suppressing any hint of an uprising from Palestinians and confiscating
1:10.0	land legally entitled to them for a future state.
1:14.4	Israel's control over the territory for now remains intact, but it is unclear what form it will
1:19.3	take in the future.
1:21.5	Today author Nathan Thrall joins me to discuss the situation in the West Bank and beyond.
1:27.1	His latest book, A Day in the Life of Abid Salama, anatomy of a Jerusalem tragedy, tells the story of one Palestinian family living under Israeli occupation
1:37.0	and the broader systems of domination that they encounter in their everyday life.
1:41.0	Nathan, welcome to Intercepted. Thanks for having me.
1:45.0	Nathan, a day in the life of Abid Salama was published on October 3rd last year, just before the Hamas
1:51.0	attacks on Israel and the onset of the current war in Gaza.
1:54.0	You know, obviously you're a very highly regard analyst and expert on the Israel-Palestine
1:57.9	conflict. Can you talk about how the timing of the book released influenced its reception
2:02.4	and pressure on your ability to talk about the book?
2:05.0	Yeah, so I mean I think that there's been a mixed picture.
2:09.5	On the one hand, a lot of the gatekeepers who originally were going to host me at various venues
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