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Science Quickly

Understanding Dissociative Identity Disorder through the 'Community' of Ella

Science Quickly

Scientific American

Science

4.31.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

We learn the story of “Ella,” a patient with 12 different personalities, or “parts,” and of her therapist, who helped her form a peaceful community—many selves in one body and mind.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Science Quickly, a Scientific American Podcast Series.

0:12.7

I'm Josh Fishman, Scientific American Senior Health Editor.

0:17.3

Is it possible for one person to have several completely different personalities?

0:21.8

I've seen movies and red books that claim that this happens, but is it real?

0:27.2

To answer that question, today I'm joined by psychotherapist and anthropologist Rebecca

0:32.3

Lester from Washington University in St. Louis.

0:35.9

She'll tell us about a patient she worked with for many years, an amazing young woman

0:40.4

with 12 different parts.

0:43.0

These parts started out fighting with one another, but eventually and remarkably, they formed

0:48.4

a peaceful community.

0:50.4

Many selves in one body and mind.

0:58.2

This episode of Science Quickly contains discussions of personality disorders, childhood trauma,

1:04.0

and a brief mention of child abuse.

1:06.4

Please listen at your discretion.

1:09.2

Rebecca, who was Ella?

1:11.0

Sure.

1:12.0

Well, Ella is of course a pseudonym to protect her privacy.

1:15.4

At the time she came to see me, she was a 19-year-old college student.

1:19.2

She was dealing with symptoms of complex, post-traumatic stress disorder, so that included

1:23.4

things like flashbacks, nightmares, bodily kinds of difficulties.

1:29.2

She had some disorder eating and self-harm, so she had a lot going on that she was really

1:33.0

struggling with this trauma that she had experienced.

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