One good thing about the Salafi school of the 90s and 2000s was that the Akhida books you guys are reading are human developments.

Understanding Wittgenstein's theory on all on language will actually help you

understand the Saifad controversy.

The problem is not the critique.

The problem is the critique is Lax Adab adab and it goes from okay he's wrong to he's a confident in his CIA agent that's the problem right?

How many fights do you want to pick today man?

Forget me go listen to these other three guys. We were talking about this in the car as well.

You famously, you kind of moved away from a kind of,

let's say, a passionately held worldview that you used to have

to a different kind of of someone could say a different

worldview and it was quite public about it. Some of the criticism that might get from

people is you know people like that they're just kind of flip-flopping around, they're going to keep changing the worldviews.

So my question is, will you ever go back to Windows?

No, never.

Okay. I have repented, and there is no going back.

No, no, shall not.

Nice one.

No, seriously.

We've been kind of following obviously your discourse know your discourse and some your writings and

your lectures and stuff the last time we spoke as a good few years ago yeah

all three of us but since then I've noticed you've been

Masala doing lots of great work in terms of reaching out

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