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Diane Rehm: On My Mind

Understanding Anti-Zionism And Antisemitism

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

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🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Can you be anti-Zionist without being antisemitic? In other words, can you question the actions -- or existence -- of Israel without being seen as prejudiced against Jewish people?

As Israel’s bombardment of Gaza continues, this question, that at one time seemed merely academic, has spilled onto the streets, across campuses, and into the halls of Congress.

“The politicization of antisemitism and anti-Zionism in the United States is doing a grave disservice to Jews, and to Palestinians,” says Jonathan Weisman, political reporter for the New York Times and author of the book “(((Semitism))): Being Jewish in America in the Age of Trump.”

He joins Diane on this episode of On My Mind to help define these terms, explain why they are being used to score political points, and what the impact of that could be on U.S. policy in the Middle East.

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0:00.0

Hi it's Diane, on my mind can you be anti-Zionist without being anti-Semitic?

0:11.4

That is to what extent can you question the actions or existence of Israel

0:20.0

without being seen as prejudiced against Jewish people.

0:26.2

As Israel's bombardment of Gaza continues,

0:30.9

a question that once seemed merely academic has filled onto the streets across

0:37.1

campuses and into the halls of Congress. I think that the politicization of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism

0:49.4

in the United States is doing a grave disservice to Jews and to Palestinians.

0:56.0

Jonathan Weisman is a political reporter at the New York Times.

1:01.0

He says the line between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism has been blurred

1:09.7

and is being used to score political points.

1:14.0

Then last week the House passed a resolution stating that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. Tell me what that means, why it came about.

1:34.0

This is an issue that has royaled the nation streets, the nation's campuses, and now the

1:40.9

halls of Congress since the October 7th bloodbath unleashed by Hamas and the

1:49.0

relentless attacks that Israel has launched on Gaza ever since.

1:54.0

The question about whether anti-Zionism is

1:58.0

is anti-Semitism is a central problem for Democrats and for the Democratic left

2:08.0

because Republicans have long been accused of flirting with right-wing anti-Semites.

2:15.9

In now, the question is,

2:19.0

are the opponents of the Jewish state

2:22.0

automatically anti-Semitic.

2:25.0

That is why Republicans wanted this resolution put on the House floor

2:29.2

because the question really puts Democrats in a corner.

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