Undersea cables, known for being long.

Famous for being wet.

Nobody thinks much about them, so let's have some fun.

Let's find out why undersea cables are secretly incredibly fascinating. Fascinating.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to a whole new podcast episode, a podcast all about why being alive is more interesting than people think it is.

My name is Alex Schmidt, and I'm not alone. My guest today is my former colleague, my old pal, and one of my favorite authors.

Jason Pargin is a New York Times bestselling novelist, and a full-time novelist.

His newest novel is called If This Book Exists, You're in the Wrong Universe.

That's the fourth book in the John Dies at the end series.

It also stands on its own and explains itself.

You don't need to be caught up on the canon or whatever.

And it came out just a few months ago.

It is so fantastic.

I am so glad you can just go out and get it.

Like go to your local bookstore or internet version of that and pick it up.

Also, I've gathered all of our zip codes and used internet resources like native-land.coma to acknowledge that I recorded this on the traditional land of the Canarsie and Lenape peoples.

Acknowledge Jason recorded this on the traditional land of the Shawnee, Eastern Cherokee, and

Saatsahya'ha peoples. And acknowledge that in all of our locations, native people are very much

still here. That feels worth doing on each episode,

and today's episode is about undersea cables. That's a topic chosen by supporters of this

podcast over at sithpod.f.common. Many thanks to G. Moyer for suggesting that idea and to the

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