Uncharted: Teddy Roosevelt's Amazon Expedition | Lost Cities with Mike Heckenberger | 5

Against The Odds

Wondery

Cassie De Pecol, History, Society & Culture, Dolby, Mike Corey, Dolby Atmos, Atmos

4.7 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Searching for lost cities in the Amazon sounds like something out of a Hollywood script – unless you’re University of Florida anthropologist Mike Heckenberger. He’s been visiting the Amazon for three decades, working with local tribes and uncovering a network of ancient cities in the jungle. On this episode, Mike joins host Cassie De Pecol to discuss what it’s like to explore the region today, more than a century since Roosevelt’s expedition, and what we can learn from the indigenous people of the Amazon about preserving it.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Against the Odds at Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:06.2	From Wundery, I'm Cassie Depeckle, and this is Against the Odds.
0:21.4	Over the last four episodes, we told the story of Fyodor Roosevelt's expedition into the Amazon
0:36.0	Basin to explore the river of doubt, later named the Rio Roosevelt. For two months, Roosevelt and his
0:43.1	companions faced disease, rapids, snakes, and insects, and were constantly aware that they were being
0:50.0	watched by a local Indian tribe who had not yet had contact with outsiders. One man drowned,
0:57.0	another was murdered, and the murderer was left behind. The former president himself nearly died
1:03.4	of fever. The Amazon and its rivers have long been the fascination of explorers, scientists,
1:09.6	and anthropologists. And more than a century after Roosevelt's expedition, parts of the region
1:15.2	remain largely unexplored by outsiders, even though indigenous people have called the Amazon
1:20.5	their home for thousands of years. Joining us today is Mike Hickenberger, a professor of anthropology
1:27.4	at the University of Florida in Gainesville. Since the early 90s, Mike has been journeying to the
1:32.8	Amazon to uncover ancient cities and work with indigenous peoples in the Shingu River Basin.
1:38.4	Our conversation is coming up next.
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2:07.6	Shortly thereafter, he started to control, manipulate, and brainwash some of the students.
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